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Like an ACP asking me to fly a broken airplane 2 different times? I have 2 specific examples but won't publish them for all to see. Union Steward was put on the line, and the airplane stayed put.


PM me the tail # and what was broken if you'd like. I'm sure this is debatable.
 
Oz, you left out medical emergencies like paper cuts...:p

Seriously though, I do agree that the FLOPS seem stuck in the dark ages. Common sense and industry examples should tell them that the company would be much better off if they'd work with the pilots rather than against them. Those who are better at teamwork are most likely to weather a crisis like the current recession. Managers who ignore a resource and don't tap into available talent are leading the wrong direction. The Options pilots are doing the right thing by insisting on a course correction. Hang in there, guys!
 
Above FL350

If you do fly above FL350. Don't forget to call Cleveland for OXY service after landing each leg.
I hear getting Oxygen in some places is a real bugger.

If you fly above FL350 and land with full tanks, it could be a bust for both crew.
 
You'll have to give good, solid examples to prove that management wants to operate an unsafe operation. Just saying it isn't enough. And I don't think that's why a union was created - for safety - I think it's because of the greed of a bunch of type-A individuals who disguise their greed as being a concern for safety.

Someone please send me the best method to post a scanned 501 on this board and I will give management man/child Skumza all the examples that he and Ricci can stomach.

I will have to start a new thread called "Flight Options Request Examples of Illegal Operations" and fill it with the obvious illegal 501's along with heart warming explanations of scenarios surrounding the 501. Others can join in on the thread by adding their favorite ones.
Skumza the 501s should have enough detail for you, date, tail number, mechanics name, illegal sign off. Easy reading by anyone with good morals and a legitamate aviation background.

The FAA has turned a blind eye to the obvious violations made by Flops. They must be waiting for a body count before taking their job serious.

I'll be your Huckleberry!
 
<<<< Someone please send me the best method to post a scanned 501 on this board >>>>

I don't think you can post an image on FI as such, but if you register in a suitable name at PhotoBucket then you will be able to post a link (or links) here (from anything you up-load on PhotoBucket) that will take readers to your desired image(s)........
 
Someone please send me the best method to post a scanned 501 on this board and I will give management man/child Skumza all the examples that he and Ricci can stomach.

I will have to start a new thread called "Flight Options Request Examples of Illegal Operations" and fill it with the obvious illegal 501's along with heart warming explanations of scenarios surrounding the 501. Others can join in on the thread by adding their favorite ones.
Skumza the 501s should have enough detail for you, date, tail number, mechanics name, illegal sign off. And the pilot's name? Huh?? Easy reading by anyone with good morals and a legitamate aviation background.

The FAA has turned a blind eye to the obvious violations made by Flops. They must be waiting for a body count before taking their job serious.

I'll be your Huckleberry!

Sure, as long as the entire document is shown - showing the name of pilot that wrote up this supposedly illegally signed off 501, then this idea is somewhat legit. Otherwise, don't bother making your point this way. But, posting private aircraft records on the internet may bring you trouble the union can't save you from...
You can share the 501 sequence # and tail number, this might work.
 
looks like skanza just got served.....


maybe you should'nt post anymore skanza, it just makes you look ignorant.


You know you're just inviting me to keep posting.
You may think I'm ignorant (based on what, I don't know), but you're displaying your ignorance by claiming this.

Remember, it doesn't matter what you think, or what I think. We are, after all, engaged in an internet debate. It will never end and no one will concede.
 
i always find it interesting that when pilots try to increase their income and provide for their families - it's greed. When mgt takes their yearly bonuses, stock options and then leave with a golden parachute - it's what the market values.
 
biggest union boondoggle in aviation history

i always find it interesting that when pilots try to increase their income and provide for their families - it's greed. When mgt takes their yearly bonuses, stock options and then leave with a golden parachute - it's what the market values.


I always find it interesting when pilots try to increase their income by holding the company hostage with a greedy collective bargaining agreement, jeapardizing the jobs of pilots and coworkers.

When management gives up their bonuses and stock options when profitability falters due to high labor costs, pilots fail to see that there is a balance that could have been achieved with a fair bargaining agreement. They think that they are the only ones working for the company and it all revolves around them.

Pilots complain about golden parachutes with management, yet they yell "victory" when Netjets dumps an unlimited amount of money into the biggest union boondoggle in aviation history, this company wide golden parachute program given to pilots that all of you are so proud of.
 
Of all people to throw that stone....

looks like skanza just got served.....


maybe you should'nt post anymore skanza, it just makes you look ignorant.

People living in glass houses shouldn't throw stones Broke, and if there is anybody here that should NOT be throwing the "ignorant" stone, it's you.

That big glass house that your union created is beginning to show some pretty serious cracks in it, and each stone you throw weakens the foundation for you and all the pilots around you.
 

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