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You don't need a crashpad. No one has a crashpad here. There are a few commuters, but those guys all have company apartments.

There are a few here though that bought as investments, which at one point, was very good as they were all done on spectulation. However, just like everywhere else, the market crashed and they got stuck with huge mortgages. That's why some people have ran. However, I do know personally of two pilots and one purser that got stuck with investments like this and got behind on their mortgage. The company bailed them out. Now, some will say that's the company helping the pilot. Some will say that the company did it to ensure those individuals will stay and are now indebted to EK. You make your on conclusions.

Listen, if you come here thinking it's going to be just like home, don't come. You will be sorely mistaken and probably miserable. This is not the U.S. and no, you can't do everything that you did back home or be in the same environment that you had back home. My Target runs now include a 14.5 hour trip to JFK, not a 10 minute run down the block. You certainly have to have a little bit of adventurism in you to become an expat. You have to have the ability to learn to enjoy some of the culture (not embrace it, enjoy it or go along with it). If you don't, you'll go crazy. I'll give you an example, if you can't travel outside of the U.S. without eating at a McDonalds at least twice a week, then don't bother trying to become an expat. It's a different life. And it's not for everyone. It's not back home, I miss a lot of stuff that I did in the states. That's also why we try to get back home every 3 to 4 months, doesn't always happen, but it helps. However, we have found new and different things to do that we otherwise would never have had the opportunity to do, and we have embraced that not only for ourselves, but for the education of our kids. Take it for what it's worth. Be informed about becoming an expat. For the simple reason that once you become an expat, if you want to return to the U.S. in this career, more than likely, you will start all over again. It's not an easy choice. But don't foul yourself that it will be like moving from DTW to MSP.
 
You don't need a crashpad. No one has a crashpad here. There are a few commuters, but those guys all have company apartments.

There are a few here though that bought as investments, which at one point, was very good as they were all done on spectulation. However, just like everywhere else, the market crashed and they got stuck with huge mortgages. That's why some people have ran. However, I do know personally of two pilots and one purser that got stuck with investments like this and got behind on their mortgage. The company bailed them out. Now, some will say that's the company helping the pilot. Some will say that the company did it to ensure those individuals will stay and are now indebted to EK. You make your on conclusions.

Listen, if you come here thinking it's going to be just like home, don't come. You will be sorely mistaken and probably miserable. This is not the U.S. and no, you can't do everything that you did back home or be in the same environment that you had back home. My Target runs now include a 14.5 hour trip to JFK, not a 10 minute run down the block. You certainly have to have a little bit of adventurism in you to become an expat. You have to have the ability to learn to enjoy some of the culture (not embrace it, enjoy it or go along with it). If you don't, you'll go crazy. I'll give you an example, if you can't travel outside of the U.S. without eating at a McDonalds at least twice a week, then don't bother trying to become an expat. It's a different life. And it's not for everyone. It's not back home, I miss a lot of stuff that I did in the states. That's also why we try to get back home every 3 to 4 months, doesn't always happen, but it helps. However, we have found new and different things to do that we otherwise would never have had the opportunity to do, and we have embraced that not only for ourselves, but for the education of our kids. Take it for what it's worth. Be informed about becoming an expat. For the simple reason that once you become an expat, if you want to return to the U.S. in this career, more than likely, you will start all over again. It's not an easy choice. But don't foul yourself that it will be like moving from DTW to MSP.

Good post. Thanks
 
Why would you need a pilot crashpad if the company is paying your housing?

I'll defer to Regional's summary of what happened (my source was state's side), however I think the scenario he describes makes my point: An expat must comport himself consistent with middle eastern culture or face the consequences.

Dubai leadership itself is experiencing some disapproval from the other emirates' leadership due to their assumption of massive debts based on hyper speculation, and so are finding the securing of "bailout capital" from Qatar and the others difficult these days. Loss of control of Emirates Airways is one possibility.
 
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I'll defer to Regional's summary of what happened (my source was state's side), however I think the scenario he describes makes my point: An expat must comport himself consistent with middle eastern culture or face the consequences.
You could say that about ANY international flying, whether it's the Emirates, Saudi, China, Korea, or even Russia.

Most of that, however, comes with being a professional. There are always going to be a few individuals who just conduct themselves unprofessionally in ALL aspects of their life, or just make poor financial decisions, as it sounds here, and get themselves in hot water...

YMMV
 
Dubai leadership itself is experiencing some disapproval from the other emirates' leadership due to their assumption of massive debts based on hyper speculation, and so are finding the securing of "bailout capital" from Qatar and the others difficult these days.
Jerry you know that Qatar is a country in it's own right and has no association with Dubai or the United Arab Emirates whatsoever besides also being in the Middle East?
 
Only when they absolutely, positively have to, because no one with Boeing/Airbus time is prepared to go there. It's the only reason they were prepared to look at RJ guys 18 months ago.

So this is why I get Emails from them every few weeks. Im surprised with all the guys not working around the world they would have a Boeing / Airbus Qualed line out the door.
 
So this is why I get Emails from them every few weeks. Im surprised with all the guys not working around the world they would have a Boeing / Airbus Qualed line out the door.

I know you fly Boeing equipment (meaning you would likely get a 777 seat), but you should see how desparate they are - tell them you'll take A380 or nothing and see what happens...
 
Tell them you want the 380 or nothing and I can tell you nothing will happen. They refused to take recently hired guys from the 330 fleet to the 380, they insisted on min 2 years with the company. There are plenty of people waiting on the 330 fleet to transfer who have less than 2 years.
 
How many days on and off are at a time? Would it be possible to work 15 days on and a certain amount off?
 
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The rosters at EK are absolutely not commutable. Flights throughout the month with a normal situation being 3-4 days off in a row.
Guys use to get creative with bidding but that has been stopped by a petty management that enforced a no more than 5 days off in a row through bidding.
 
The rosters at EK are absolutely not commutable. Flights throughout the month with a normal situation being 3-4 days off in a row.
Guys use to get creative with bidding but that has been stopped by a petty management that enforced a no more than 5 days off in a row through bidding.
Which, combined with the policy of making interviewees pay for their travel to the interview (I don't mind getting to Houston, but they can positive space me on their own planes, come on...), and the questionable housing status and increase of fees and partial payments of utilities, etc, means I wouldn't accept an interview there right now.

If their times for DECA come down 1,000 hours into my total time range and they fixed the rosters to where I can get home 3 or 4 times a year with 12-14 days off, as well as making the on-line pass travel 100% free and whenever I want so I can bounce up into Europe on my days off once or twice a month, I'll reconsider.

Have no interest in being that restricted to use the benefits that many of us are used to for being airline pilots.

Thanks for the info!
 
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...and they fixed the rosters to where I can get home 3 or 4 times a year with 12-14 days off...

Come home more than 35 days a year and you will lose your expat tax exclusion, which I believe currently exempts you up to $91,400. Tax-free pay is a BIG reason to put up with all the other sandbox BS...
 
I easily get home four times a year with no problems, just through bidding vacation (42 days per year). You can commute, but it's a b$%ch. I'm commuting right now and have been for six months. I don't plan on doing it much longer, just what the circumstances are right now. The only way I can commute is through constantly trip swapping. You certainly could not do it just by bidding a schedule (as overseas pointed out). Plus, if you don't get business or better, it's a miserable trip. Business and first non-rev is fairly expensive here as well. Bottom line, IMHO, commuting here sucks and you should not expect to do it long term.

I will stand to be corrected, but I thought they were now paying for the interviewees to come over again from an EK station. Could be wrong though.

New joiners are going straight into villas now. (Not really a villa, more like a 3 to 4 bedroom townhome). It seems that they have the housing sorted out. However, I've been here several years and have not had any direct contact with the accomodation department. I've just talked with some of the new joiners and they seemed okay with their housing. But again, I will stand to be corrected by any of the new joiners.

Management team has said no more DEC's. However, things change with the shifting sands so if they are needed, they will bring that back. Plenty of FO's here to upgrade.

As long as you can meet the bona fide residence test, the 35 days does not apply.
 
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Hi!

What is the "bona fide residence" test? And it is more than 30 days in the US, or you have to pay!

cliff
NBO
 

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