Mr Hat said:Whoever is being paid the least will always be accused of dragging the industry down. United did LOADS to benefit the profession in the 90's as did Delta then unfortunatly they had to give it all back and now it doesn't really matter. The way we do things in this industry is pattern barganing so BlueBayou has a point. I would say that United is setting the bar for airline management to shoot for. Uniteds fault? No, just the way it is. You gotta do what you gotta do to survive. Hopefully the pattern will start going the other way again in the next few years.
Right. If you work for a Legacy, don't let up on those scope clauses no matter what.
Even with UAL's paycuts I don't think you can argue that JBlue is doing any better. Ual pilots have a hefty B plan and a defined contribution of 15%.
The whole reason UAL's pay is where it is at is due to management wanting their costs to be in line with the Jblue's of the industry. They aimed for a total labour cost equal to the LCC's. So they have not "lowered the bar" as Blue Bayou states. They have conceded wages to bring themselves down to the level of the LCC's.