Does anybody read the AIM anymore?

[hammer2]

Air Force common

 

[livethedream]

the pirate voice is a great but I really like the Hindu (a la Apu) for traffic calls

is the AIM law or suggestion?

 

[dime line]

Yea I''m probably one of the worst when it comes down to phraseology in uncontrolled airports. What I do care about is that everybody in the pattern knows exactly what I'm gonna do. I think the Aim dosen't take into account 5 152's and a Jet in the pattern.
my 2cents

 

[Diesel]

Lets see a jet coming into a non towered airport full of 152's in the pattern. Anybody remember when st augustine didn't have a tower. That place was a mess.

Trying to get a jet into the flow of the pattern can be interesting. The typical controller dump off can make it interesting. Running both radios so that you don't become that guy blasting into the pattern.

 

[LR25]

Lets see a jet coming into a non towered airport full of 152's in the pattern. Anybody remember when st augustine didn't have a tower. That place was a mess.

Trying to get a jet into the flow of the pattern can be interesting. The typical controller dump off can make it interesting. Running both radios so that you don't become that guy blasting into the pattern.

I do remember St. Augustine without a tower, pretty wild.

I remember Boca without one also, that was fun.

 

[HAZ-MAT]

I'm guilty...just the way my instructor taught me 10 years ago... Another tid-bit... Do not announce Right Base. Its in the AIM, but its also under part 91 in the FARs....I guess there is a FAA inspector in WY that got one of our flight crew for announcing their right base... which was a violation of the FARs. So just announce final with every turn!!!
:beer:

 

[CA1900]

Another tid-bit... Do not announce Right Base. Its in the AIM, but its also under part 91 in the FARs....I guess there is a FAA inspector in WY that got one of our flight crew for announcing their right base... which was a violation of the FARs.

Why in the world would announcing a right base be a violation of the FARs if there's a published/marked right-hand traffic pattern?

 

[HAZ-MAT]

if there's a published/marked right-hand traffic pattern?

Sorry, forgot to include that... if not depicted, then Right traffic is not correct... It used to just be in the AIM, but recently it has made its way into the FARs.

 

[bluefishbeagle]

Why in the world would announcing a right base be a violation of the FARs if there's a published/marked right-hand traffic pattern?

Call turning a three mile final and it doesn't matter if it's a right turn or left you are making a straight in.

Tell them you heard it from MR. WRIGHT

 

[bluefishbeagle]

You never said or done anything wrong? Wow, I thought there were only 2 Wright Brothers, but sounds like you must the the 3rd one out there then. Listen here Mr. Right....just take your 2 worthless cents and move on. Nobody really cares anyway....

Current proceedures at non-towered airports cover position reports "any traffic please advise" has no meaning. Advise what? your catering will be late? How can the guy with his volume turned down advise you and anything? Don't you still have to look outside the window? TCAS is great but not if the other guy has his/her transponder turned off. "any traffic please advise may give a warm fuzzy feeling but you are still very likely to get a C152 shoved up your butt no matter how many times you say it if you don't look. Dumb is a dumb does.