DL/AA flowback jumpseat NOV 15th

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Just read that starting November 15th Delta and AA will have unlimited jumpseats.(on eachother) That will help our ex DFW based commuters and help the AA guys/gals get to ATL or CVG. (Wow!?) So, for those of you keeping track, we now have unlimited jumpseats for any DCI, Southwest, and now AA pilot starting Nov 15th. I hope more will be signed up soon. I have no idea why we can't just do it with everyone.....????

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Thanks for the info. That is good news, hopefully CAL will be on that list soon.
 

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Huh?
"That will help our ex DFW based commuters"

Hence why it happened. SWA and AA, hmmm, see a pattern?

What is good for the DAL pilots, is good for the DAL pilots!

Of course, DAL is in Ch.11 and the pilots have bigger issues, yet, they managed to solve this issue right quick.

So General, when will this be coming to all the other airlines that give DAL pilots unlimited seats?
 
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Dizel8 said:
"That will help our ex DFW based commuters"

Hence why it happened. SWA and AA, hmmm, see a pattern?

What is good for the DAL pilots, is good for the DAL pilots!

Of course, DAL is in Ch.11 and the pilots have bigger issues, yet, they managed to solve this issue right quick.

So General, when will this be coming to all the other airlines that give DAL pilots unlimited seats?
I think what that means is that if we allready have jumpseater, even if there are many empty seats in the back and even if the physical jumpseat is not occupied, we cannot allow a Delta pilot to jumpseat isnt that what that means....I thought so
 

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tico said:
I think what that means is that if we allready have jumpseater, even if there are many empty seats in the back and even if the physical jumpseat is not occupied, we cannot allow a Delta pilot to jumpseat isnt that what that means....I thought so
I am sorry, but you lost me!
 

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Tico,

If there are any seats in the back, you can put as many Delta pilots back there as you want. Same for our planes with AA or WN pilots.

Dizel8,

I hope we allow that for everyone. I see what you are saying about AA and WN being based in Dallas, but WN wouldn't help with a jumpseat to ATL or CVG. (Maybe SLC or LA bases) Remember that Wright Ammendment thing for WN and DAL Love field? Yeah, you do. I hope unlimited comes for everyone soon.


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General,

Well, I am sure you can jump on SWA to someplace that connects with DAL:)

I am curious, and not in a condescending way, why the flow back with SWA and AA happened, yet it appears that getting anyone else on that list could take months. If DAL can add AA, SWA why could they not at the same time add UAL, CAL etc.?

You know more about these workings than I do, so out of curiosity, what is the hold up, what is DALPA saying, management?
 

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Hi GL,

Just took DAL out of DAB again all the way through to MSP. They apoligized for not putting me in first on the DAB-ATL leg, and then got first and very nice service from ATL-MSP.. Great ride!

Take Care,

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Dizel8 is absolutely correct.

Management knows that once the they void the pilot contract their will be some seriously ticked off commuters, looking for any reason to call in sick.

Now add in the very real possibility that Comair will meet the same fate as ASA. Commuting from DFW/DAL could be almost impossible on mainline Delta.

DAL mgt knew exactly what they were doing when they choose AA and SWA.
 

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This thread reminds me of the motel I passed on the way to my layover hotel this evening. It advertised that the property now featured color tv. Congratulations!!!!!!!
 

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AAflyer said:
Hi GL,

Just took DAL out of DAB again all the way through to MSP. They apoligized for not putting me in first on the DAB-ATL leg, and then got first and very nice service from ATL-MSP.. Great ride!

Take Care,

AA
Good. Welcome anytime.

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G4G5 said:
Dizel8 is absolutely correct.

Management knows that once the they void the pilot contract their will be some seriously ticked off commuters, looking for any reason to call in sick.

Now add in the very real possibility that Comair will meet the same fate as ASA. Commuting from DFW/DAL could be almost impossible on mainline Delta.

DAL mgt knew exactly what they were doing when they choose AA and SWA.
Again, I don't know what you are talking about. First, Love Field is not a great connection to ATL, or to many cities for Delta connections for a couple leg commute. We would probably rather pay Airtran $25 if we couldn't get a ride otherwise for free from DFW. And, what does Comair have to do with this again? They have 2 or 3 RJs a day to CVG from DFW.


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General,

You must admit, that the timing is impeccable, just shortly after DAL closes down Dallas, lo and behold, unlimited jumpseats with the two carriers who are big in Dallas. In the case of SWA, you had access to the jumpseat, however, IIRC, SWA only offers unlimited to those that reply in kind.

Is G4G5 onto something? Well, I am not sure, but he does put sound reasoning behind it and perhaps there is a bit of truth in it.

If DAL can offer it to SWA and AA, then they probably could offer it every carrier, after all, the system is in place, the memos have been sent, the neccessary employees informed, just add a few more names to the list.

It looks strange and somewhat calculated on DAL, hence why I would like to hear, what DAL management or DALPA has said.
 

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Dizel8 said:
General,

You must admit, that the timing is impeccable, just shortly after DAL closes down Dallas, lo and behold, unlimited jumpseats with the two carriers who are big in Dallas. In the case of SWA, you had access to the jumpseat, however, IIRC, SWA only offers unlimited to those that reply in kind.

Is G4G5 onto something? Well, I am not sure, but he does put sound reasoning behind it and perhaps there is a bit of truth in it.

If DAL can offer it to SWA and AA, then they probably could offer it every carrier, after all, the system is in place, the memos have been sent, the neccessary employees informed, just add a few more names to the list.

It looks strange and somewhat calculated on DAL, hence why I would like to hear, what DAL management or DALPA has said.
If WN was chosen to help DFW guys commute, where would they go from DAL Love? That doesn't make sense. I guess WN does go to LAX and SLC, but not from DAL Love. You can't fly on Southwest to CVG, ATL, or JFK. I understand why AA was picked, since that would help our guys in DFW get to all of our other hubs. But why WN? Good question. And, I will try to look into why other airlines haven't been given unlimited jumps.

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Huh?
Does SWA fly out of Love to places that connect with DAL, two leg commute?
 

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Does SWA fly out of Love to places that connect with DAL, two leg commute?
This is stretching it. I guess we could say yes here, to LIT, OKC, TUL, SAT, AUS, HOU etc. But, I highly doubt people would go to that extreme, at Love Field. Maybe if they lived close to Love they could park their car there and try a two leg commute.....Maybe....Doubtful though....but maybe.


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Whatever gets you there, right?
 

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Dizel8 said:
Whatever gets you there, right?
You got me!

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General Lee said:
This is stretching it. I guess we could say yes here, to LIT, OKC, TUL, SAT, AUS, HOU etc. But, I highly doubt people would go to that extreme, at Love Field. Maybe if they lived close to Love they could park their car there and try a two leg commute.....Maybe....Doubtful though....but maybe.


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Try commuting on flights that average 90+ load factors and lots of commuters. Someone often gets left behind. I'll take a sure bet 2 leg commute over an uncertain 1 leg any day.

Besides, It's Love field. Far superior to DFW. ;)
 

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General Lee said:
Just read that starting November 15th Delta and AA will have unlimited jumpseats.(on eachother) That will help our ex DFW based commuters and help the AA guys/gals get to ATL or CVG. (Wow!?) So, for those of you keeping track, we now have unlimited jumpseats for any DCI, Southwest, and now AA pilot starting Nov 15th. I hope more will be signed up soon. I have no idea why we can't just do it with everyone.....????

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You are incorrect sir - DCI does NOT have unlimited jumpseats, only SWA & AA. DCI is limited to the actual number of A/C jumpseat (1 or 2), just as we are when we ride on them. This is a reciprocal agreement.
 
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