DHL looses a can in Baghdad

[TurboS7]

I had to wear a flak jacket while doing my preflight at a certain place, does that count??

 

[bart]

Skaz,

Let me know when you become a US citizen, and then your opinion will mean something...

as for your threat, let me know when you will be in Atlanta, I would be happy to take you up on your offer.

Arcticflier,

Thanks and actually saw Senna and Schuie run against each other last night on Speed Channel: The 1993 Belgian GP, when SHuie was with Benetton. Result: Graham Hill, Michael, Alain Prost, then Ayrton. It was so cool to see them all race. Speed is running all the races from 1993 on Sunday nights.

 

[Stifler's Mom]

Amazing. The topic doesn't deserve mention until the 10th paragraph of the article, and even then the airplane is referred to as a "courier plane." Imagine the uproar had the same airplane been loaded with 220 pax.

I agree 100%. Just like FedEx in TLH...it was **CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED** near impossible to find any media coverage on that. I guess pilots don't count in the loss of life numbers.

 

[Flightjock30]

1) Bush is not a good president.

2) We should never went to Iraq in the first place and Wouldn't had September 11th not happened. Bush is a war mongul like his father.

3) But yes its too late to pull out now. Its just pathetic why we are there though. Trying to be the world's police force. Look at our country's debt!!!! Lets focus on our problems and stop helping other countries and their economic and political problems.

Thats the facts folks! Plain and simple.

 

[Freight Dog]

The way we need to fight these insurgents is the same way Saddam Hussein fought them - you not only kill them, but you kill their entire family - you bring down the whole family tree right down to the family pet. Then you drape them in pigskins and put them on public display - these people are terrorists, enemy of 'peaceful Islam.'

Now, at the same time, you get Halliburton contractors out of there, and you have Iraqi companies staffed by Iraqis rebuilding their own country under our supervision. You give them jobs, you pay them well more than they were paid during Saddam, and you let them take charge of their destiny. This is all while you block Al-Jazeera signal and Al-Arabiya and broadcast how things are REALLY going - schools improving, how electrical grids are now better, installing new towers, and you praise those hard-working Iraqis who made a choice to rebuild their country. You also broadcast your intentions to leave and you start reducing REGULAR troop levels, while bringing in special forces to deal with insurgents. You bring them jobs, you bring them money, and you deal with insurgents HARSHLY by THEIR standard, and that would be the end of it.

The problem with this plan is that it calls for gory ways - something that our nation cannot deal with. Imagine the public outcry here if we killed some insurgents and then executed their families, draped them in pigskins and left them out on display like that. To us, it's repugnant, immoral, etc.
You have to fight a war at its lowest common denominator which in this case is insurgents. We have the know-how to beat them in their own game. We choose not to do it for political reasons.

 

[AV8OR]

"2) We should never went to Iraq in the first place and Wouldn't had September 11th not happened. Bush is a war mongul like his father."

OK first,

"We should never went to Iraq in the first place and Wouldn't had September 11th not happened."

Verb tense.....look into it.

Second,

"Bush is a war mongul like his father."

War Mongul? What the....?

I think what you meant was war monger.

War: I think we know what that is. + Monger: origin from the Greek word, manganon, for broker or dealer = war monger: someone who stirs up war desire or sentiment.

Mongul....no such word

Mongol: people who's ethnic background is chiefly from the peoples of northern and eastern Asia, Malaysians, Eskimos, and often American Indians

So your use of the term "war mongul" seems to either be un-educated or racist in nature. Which one are you?

Sorry, just had to poke a little fun at this one.

 

[Vladimir Lenin]

kill their entire family...drape them in pigskins and put them on public display - these people are terrorists, enemy of 'peaceful Islam.'

that's a pretty peaceful process, easy on the eyes, too

 

[Freight Dog]

that's a pretty peaceful process, easy on the eyes, too

Yeah... try explaining peace and the concept of kumbaya to a Muhammad Ahmed Al-Guerillah.

 

[Snakum]

I'm sure the world is gonna come to an end any moment now, because I agree with Bart. I'm gonna be sick.

While I will always maintain we had no business in Iraq this time (Afganistan, yes. Iraq, no) and we are just creating more of our own problems with this stellar move ... if we are going to fight another guerilla war, let's not repeat the mistakes of Vietnam. Let's not try to fight it with our nuts on a rope.

We will never win with foot patrols and a 'Hearts and Minds' program. We will win, and thus extricate ourselves from this horrendous foul-up, by LEVELING THE G@DD@MN PLACE. No half-@ssed measures this time around. I want my government and our military leaders to do everything necessary to mop this up and safely bring my former comrades home. Public opinion be d@mned! That god-forsaken sand pit is not worth even ONE more American life. Pull the press out ... then level it!

Skaz - If I've read your posts correctly you are not an American citizen. And if that is so, you were never a 'tabbed' member of the US Army Special Forces. A candy-striper maybe, but you didn't go to Q-school. Sorry if I misread.

Minh

 

[VivaZapata]

bart said;

The Sandinista's were chucked out of Nicaragua the same way.

Sorry, your usual rhetoric can't carry you through this one. In 1990 under internationally monitored elections AND right after the war and years of US coercion, 41% of the people still voted for the Sandinista party candidates. Today, the FSLN is the largest and most popular party in Nicaragua and continue to build upon successes of the FSLN's previous years. Reagan's/Bush Sr's embarassing policies were the only ones that were "chucked out".

The methods of which you speak didn't seem to work as well as you thought.

Your knowledge of Nicaragua is hilariously lacking.

 

[Skaz]

Snakum sir, i dont think you misread my post, so maybe we are misunderstanding each other. I dont know the term 'tabbed' nor 'candystriper', no I am not a US citizen yet, so have never served in the US military, but yes I have been on active military duty in my country's armed forces and on operations. I think I did mention that. Dont know what point you are making, please rephrase you post if you could, thanks.

bart My opinion does mean something, as does yours. These matters affect all of us, as 'global citizens', not just American citizens.

I have no reason to threaten you, or anybody else. It is very easy to make an enemy, but hard to make a friend, and I have never backed down from a challenge. I do not intend to make enemies, friends are more welcome, invitation extended.

 

[Vladimir Lenin]

wasn't this country founded by filthy, unconformist, non-citizens?

 

[bart]

Vlad, we can always count on you to chime in with platitudinal dribble.

I believe the founding fathers had lived in the country for some time and quite a few had fought for this county's freedom. That gave them a seat at the table in my book.

As for them being filthy and non-conformist, I was not there, so I cannot speak of their hygiene, however I do not feel they were non-conformist. They believed strongly in self-determination - free to conform or not.

Foreigner's opinions on our country's affairs means nothing to me. The war in Iraq is our countries affair. Other countries have had opportunity to inject themselves into the situation and have chosen not to. I believe it is either out of cowardice or ignorance.

I may listen to a citizen of Iraq on the issue, but that is about it. I discount other foreign opinions out of hand, and there is nothing anyone can say to change that. If I read the document the "filthy unconformists" (your words) wrote called the Constitution correctly I am free to do that.

 

[Vladimir Lenin]

that's fine with me, B

 

[ATR-DRIVR]

Lemay knew what to do....

 

[jergar999]

Bottom Line:

This is just one more argument that will never end. The only thing I've learned today is that as far as Airbus is concerned;
SAM's are just fine, as long as you don't touch the rudders.