DHL looses a can in Baghdad

[Vladimir Lenin]

coming to America?

photo of DHL jet

 

[Skaz]

You cannot win a guerilla war by fighting a conventional war. This lesson was very clear during Vietnam....why is the USA fighting the same way all over again?

It seems this is another quagmire the States will flounder in and loose many sons and daughters needlesly.

Now the f*&$%#rs are shooting at civilian planes with SAMs, I say give them ALL firearms and let them bloody well kill themselves.

First they kissed the ground you walk on, then they spit on you?

 

[Huck]

NBC says they were passing through 8000 feet when they got hit. DAM! I thought you were safe above like 5000....

 

[bart]

You cannot win a guerilla war by fighting a conventional war. This lesson was very clear during Vietnam....why is the USA fighting the same way all over again?

Define guerilla war and how it is different from conventional war... You have no clue what you are talking about, you are just parroting the crap coming from the defeatist bed-wetters.

I have worked both running successful insurgency and counter-insurgency operations. To be successful against guerillas you must be willing to seek out the bases of supply and sponsoring organizations and destroy them. Vietnam was lost because America lacked the political will to invade North Vietnam, plain and simple. When guerillas have sanctuary and a safe line of supply, they can be successful, the key is to remove that sanctuary and cut off the supply and that is done with PsyOps and conventional warfare.

The Sandinista's were chucked out of Nicaragua the same way.

For you pansy's that think if we just leave that this all ends, think again. That weak bowelled action is what got us here to begin with. If you are chicken, I understand, the world is full of cowards... Just leave the fighting to those that volunteered to do it for you. At least give them the time they need to finish the job so that their son's and daughter's don't have to finish the job 20 years from now.

 

[Vladimir Lenin]

originally posted by George W. Bush
Mission accomplished

it won't end if we leave, it'll just simmer some more
we shouldn've been there in the first place

lets hand it over, get out while we can, or face another Vietnam/Afghanistan overthere

superpowers don't do well on regular battlefields, because our armed forces are paid to do their job, while theirs consider it an obligation to g-d

 

[sky37d]

wasn't there a Premier hti by a SAM a while ago?

Great flying by the pilots of the DHL plane.

 

[bart]

superpowers don't do well on regular battlefields, because our armed forces are paid to do their job, while theirs consider it an obligation to g-d

Your ignorance and stupidity are as endless as your cliches. Hopefully you will make that comment to a Marine or a Ranger in person one day and they will show you how effective they are at kicking ass. Hopefully they will leave you with a tooth or two and a quarter to call an ambulance.

What do you know about the motivations of men who fight for this country? Have you served? I believe you will find that most people serve out of a deep love of this country. There might be some that do it for money, but I have never met any and I would bet they do not serve in combat units.


You claim we are in Iraq for money? You claim our enemy is in Iraq for God? It is all about power for both. They would like to see a dictatorial theocracy and we would like to see a democratic republic. I strongly beleive that the people of Iraq will be better off under the latter.

If you feel otherwise, then I am sure you will vote for Pat Robertson in the next election.

 

[46Driver]

Unlike warfare in the western world which seeks a decisive battle, guerillas simply try and outlast you. You have to hunt them down and kill them, its not easy, quick, or pretty - not a job for the ACLU....

The last thing you want to do is pull out of Iraq, then the precedent is set that the US lacks the will for an extended fight and this will only lead to more terrorism.

 

[Crizz]

Bart... Id like to buy you a beer

 

[TDTURBO]

Or alternatively, maybe just stop doing Israel's dirty work for them and let them fend for themselves? We need the ties to the arab countries more than we need the ties to Israel.

Never happen, though. Way too much Jewish money lining the pockets of way too many politicians, not to mention the whole neo-conservative club's grip on the Bush White House.

VFR ON TOP

You are right on the money!

I already beat this topic to death awhile back, I agree 100%!

 

[TonyC]

... our armed forces are paid to do their job,

You obviously are unfamiliar with the military pay scales.

 

[metrodriver]

There are a few US airlines with landing rights at saddam international, euhh, baghdad international. Kalitta is one of them, I believe Atlas or Polar is another.
They have special procedures to fly in there like a 6 degree glide path from 10.000ft. So you get in landing configuration and just push it over at idle power. Climb out is as steep as possible. At night no lights except runway lights. If you're to fast / high and need to go around it's a bank and jank manouver at 400'

 

[350DRIVER]

Or alternatively, maybe just stop doing Israel's dirty work for them and let them fend for themselves? We need the ties to the arab countries more than we need the ties to Israel.

Never happen, though. Way too much Jewish money lining the pockets of way too many politicians, not to mention the whole neo-conservative club's grip on the Bush White House.

I could not agree more with you. Sad when you see how much that this botched administration supports those "jews".


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[Salty Dog]

Riiiiiiight. So we stop giving billions to those mean Jew people who are so wrongly eaking out a living on a meager 80 square miles or so out of the hundreds of thousands that comprise the middle east and what?

They get over-run, booted out, and then what? A calm and lasting peace settles over the region? No more attempts to bomb any U.S. buildings, people, or planes? You are out of your fu--ing mind. Please shut up or you'll ge ME killed, not just yourself.

Look at how well things are working out in South Africa. Letting the scumbags run rampant is not a solution. Killing every single one of your enemies is.

Bart is right.

 

[nosewheel]

Metrodriver

Just to let you know, Kalitta has rights to land in Bagdad but do not go there. They have daily flights to Kuwait and Bahrain where DHL picks up from there. Flight crews at Kalitta have NO insurance while operating in a war zone.