Delta wins approval to build LGA hub as Gov't backs Slot trade

[Sacha]

The thing is On Your Six has the chance to make significant gains in pay during future contract negotiations, and those RJs guys can't. He knows that.


Bye Bye---General Lee

No she doesn't....DALPA will be lucky to get 5% tops......still below Valujet rates.......

The RJ guys get raises by upgrading due to Delta codeshare growth......

Godspeed!.......Buh Bye!!

 

[On Your Six]

Well why should they leave?

Delta's regional pilots get to go outside of texas and oklahoma! That alone makes okay to work there by OYS' standard. In fact DCI pilots fly a larger route structure than SWA pilots! Cabo, toronto, vancouver, miami, the bahamas and everything in between!

A senior Delta RJ pilot can cross the entire country in one day!

So since they get to see the whole country and other countries too like Canada and Mexico along with overnights in really cool places like Los Angeles, Seattle, NYC, and Tampa why on Earth would they go work at a place like Delta where they'd be flying the 88 between Atlanta and Detroit?!

Sorry, according to OYS it is okay to make less money as long as you get to
go to cooler places.

Lee is right, that wasn't my point. In our case, I would rather fly my carrier's 767s someday around the World than jump ship to fly 737s around Texas, knowing our pay is about to jump up. Huge profits means gains in pay sooner.

Senior RJ pilots have watched the bottom fall out from beneath them, the 50 seaters going away for example. Those high mainline profits also mean smaller chances of future BKs, which could be the only way those senior RJ captains will ever see any increase in plane size. They are stuck, and they know it.


Godspeed!


OYS

 

[flyboyike]

A senior Delta RJ pilot can cross the entire country in one day!

As can a junior one. I've done JFK-MSP-GEG in one day. Regional aircraft my butt.

 

[fam62c]

Maybe I don't see the big picture but neither LGA nor DCA seems like much of a prize these days.

I sure don't follow your logic there. What airline would NOT want more access to these airports if they could get it? These are the prime destinations close in to major cities, if they weren't very valuable they wouldn't have to limit the slots because the demand wouldn't be that great. When there is more demand for something than there is supply that item increases in value.

 

[Hpilot]

Delta gains 132 LaGuardia slots


Date: Wednesday, October 12, 2011, 11:54am EDT


Delta Air Lines and US Airways have cleared another hurdle in their plan to swap take-off and landing rights at Reagan National Airport.</SPAN></SPAN>



The DOT approved a deal that gives Atlanta-based Delta (NYSE: DAL) 132 additional slots at LaGuardia and US Airways (NYSE: LCC) 42 more slots at National, Bloomberg News reported, citing a DOT filing.

The Justice Department continues to review US Airways' gains at National on anti-competitive concerns, but has dropped its review of Delta's gains at LaGuardia, Bloomberg said.

In July, DOT said it would allow the swap subject public comment and to conditions that include the airlines giving up some slots at the two airports to competing airlines.

This week's decision is the latest chapter the airlines' two year attempt to get the swaps approved. Regulators initially insisted the airlines divest more slots to competitors, but have since noted the increased presence of low-cost carriers at the two airports.


Bye Bye--General Lee

Glad to see this going through. I'm guessing you realize that if Justice Dept. tries to screw LCC on the Reagan National slots, you don't get to keep the La Guardia slots. Hopefully the politicians that are in Southwest's bribe of the month club don't get in the way.

 

[General Lee]

Glad to see this going through. I'm guessing you realize that if Justice Dept. tries to screw LCC on the Reagan National slots, you don't get to keep the La Guardia slots. Hopefully the politicians that are in Southwest's bribe of the month club don't get in the way.

Maybe USAir wants the deal done for some other reason........??? Having too many LGA slots may contribute to that..????


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[asadonkey]

another FI thread hack/pissing contest by the same sorry internet tough guys.

Are the moderators gone completely? I see why I barely ever bother sign on anymore.

 

[Hpilot]

Maybe USAir wants the deal done for some other reason........??? Having too many LGA slots may contribute to that..????


Bye Bye---General Lee

You could very well be right. Those kinds of things Parker doesn't talk about to the pilots. It might just require Delta to throw in a little more money if the Reagan deal hits a snag.

 

[Hpilot]

Maybe USAir wants the deal done for some other reason........??? Having too many LGA slots may contribute to that..????


Bye Bye---General Lee

Question General:

If in the future there was one seniority list at US and a merger was proposed with Delta. In your opinion, would the Delta pilots oppose it?

Thanks.

 

[Hpilot]

another FI thread hack/pissing contest by the same sorry internet tough guys.

Are the moderators gone completely? I see why I barely ever bother sign on anymore.

I'll take little or no moderation as opposed to usaviation or airlinepilotcentral, were the moderators are not impartial. On those sites the moderators take sides, total butt rangers, in my opinion.

 

[texman]

Delta Wins Approval to Build LaGuardia Hub as U.S. Backs Flight-Slot Trade

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By Mary Jane Credeur and Mary Schlangenstein - Oct 11, 2011 1:43 PM



Delta Airlines won federal regulators’ approval to build a domestic hub at New York’s LaGuardia airport by trading takeoff and landing slots with USAir.

The accord gives Delta 132 more LaGuardia slot pairs and control of about half the flights there, in exchange for swapping 42 of its pairs at Washington's Ronald Reagan National Airport with US Airways, the U.S. Department of Transportation said today in a filing. The carriers must divest 24 pairs to smaller rivals, 16 at LaGuardia and eight at National.
Delta’s advantage at LaGuardia over American Airlines, the second-biggest carrier there, will grow as it takes over most of the US Airways terminal space. Creating a domestic hub at LaGuardia will complement Atlanta-based Delta’s international hub at Kennedy airport.




Bye Bye---General Lee

This good for the peeps that live and commute out of the northeast. Gen I just hope it is not RJ's doing it.

 

[Sacha]

This good for the peeps that live and commute out of the northeast. Gen I just hope it is not RJ's doing it.

It will be.....count on it......

 

[Hpilot]

It will be.....count on it......

I don't know what's worse the jump seat on the RJ or the 737 737: Great airplane, terrible cockpit.

P.S. 757 RULLLZZZZZZZZZ!!!

 

[Sacha]

I don't know what's worse the jump seat on the RJ or the 737 737: Great airplane, terrible cockpit.

P.S. 757 RULLLZZZZZZZZZ!!!

Wouldn't know about that....don't commute.......

But I can tell you which pays better.......

and which causes Mainline to shrink........

P.S. Money and time off really RULLLLZZZZZZ!!!

 

[Hpilot]

Wouldn't know about that....don't commute.......

But I can tell you which pays better.......

and which causes Mainline to shrink........

P.S. Money and time off really RULLLLZZZZZZ!!!

I was just making a funny, because the 737 cockpit sucks to jumpseat in. I would much rather have more 737s and less RJs. ATC would like that too. I agree the best combo would be SWA money, Delta schedule, @ a 757.