Delta to put ALL regional flying up for rebid

[Detroitpilot22]

ASA and SkyWest have a 15-year contract reaffirmed by the bankruptcy court. So if this rumor is in fact true, it would be for every regional other than those two.

No Regional is ever safe. If they really wanted to take flying away from skywest or asa, they would, contract or not.

 

[SPDBRD747400]

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[FreightNazi]

No Regional is ever safe. If they really wanted to take flying away from skywest or asa, they would, contract or not.

But Leo said "a contract's a contract!"

 

[dnkt]

CHQ is so great I wish I could work there. Can someone please give the number to HR. I want to be like all you nerds at ORD.

 

[rickair7777]

does skywest really fly 70 and 90 seats for 50 seat pay?

Yeah, but their 50 seat pay is better than most regional's 70-90 seat pay...

 

[Popeye0537]

Yeah, but their 50 seat pay is better than most regional's 70-90 seat pay...

I hope your joking, SkW tops out a 93/hr, after 18 years to fly a 90 seater.

 

[bvt1151]

Yeah, but their 50 seat pay is better than most regional's 70-90 seat pay...

LOL!!!

Comair's pay is $101 for a 50-seater (9% higher than Skywest), and $113 for a 70-seater (22% higher than Skywest).

Our previously agreed to pay cuts (which still were higher than Skywest across the board) are no longer applicable. If it weren't for Mesa diverting everybody's attention, it'd be rediculously apparent which airline was responsible for the pressure on all of our wages.

At least you're proud enough (not to mention stupid enough) to boast.

 

[rickair7777]

COMAIR is not "most regionals"

 

[SuperKooter]

I heard this from Skywest management and then from a friend at Shuttle. They both had said that Delta is not happy with Shuttle and Chautauqua and Delta is trying to find a way to get rid of them both completely.

Wow maybe those tards at delta should have kept it ASA and Comair like it was before and like it should always have been, instead of having every regional in the country fly for them. What is delta up to now 6 or 7 regionals? Its funny when you go to some places and you see 3 delta connections all from different regionals in a town which has 1 streetlight and people wonder why Delta can't turn a profit.

 

[SuperKooter]

Doubt it.

Mesa only has a two year contract to fly 10-12 Dash-8's for Delta, and scuttlebutt is that thus far, it's been a disaster.

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Mesa has managed to answer the question most propeller passengers have:

Q: What could possibly be worse than this bucket of bolts? (Dash-8)

A: A B1900. W/O a lav or flight attendant. Lovely.
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Sad thing is, this 2 year contract could have been a great way to show Delta what kind of service to expect from Mesa, and led to more business.

(Oh wait, I guess it DID show Delta what kind of service to expect from Mesa)

That flying should have gone to ASA or Comair. Just like all the ShuttleAmerica, and Freedoms flying.

 

[SuperKooter]

But Leo said "a contract's a contract!"

Yeah when he leased those planes from his wife at full price.

 

[pilotbrain]

Yeah, but their 50 seat pay is better than most regional's 70-90 seat pay...

19 dollars an hour to start is better than most regionals????????????

 

[Soverytired]

That flying should have gone to ASA or Comair. Just like all the ShuttleAmerica, and Freedoms flying.

Really?

Why? Isn't that a business decsion for Delta to make? "Should have" implies some sort of inherent right . . . . .

 

[Indy319FA]

Unfortunately it looks like DL has Comair's employee groups in their crosshairs with this RFP. If they don't cave and give in to company demands, DL will take all their flying away. OH has a great group of employees, and its sad to see them treated this way. Will also be interesting to see if DL tries to use this to get rid of Mesa as well. Going to be interesting to see how this all plays out, but we will all likely be hurt as DL will try to whipsaw everybody against each other.

 

[~~~^~~~]

And how many Billion did Delta sink into Comair? How many pilots lots tons on the stock?

Delta's smart play would have been to place the E170's with Comair, make the operation super sexy and IPO it. But no one ever accused Delta management of having a good plan.

 

[Indy319FA]

And how many Billion did Delta sink into Comair?

Heard a rumor from some Comair folks a few months ago that Dave Mueller was looking at getting a group of investors to buy Comair back for around 500 million. Would be funny as hell to see him buy the company back for less than half of what Delta paid him (and others) for it. Particularly when you consider the strong arm tactics Leo used to force them to sell. Love to see how old Leo would address that in an interview............"due to my enlightened management and leadership skills I bought a company for 1.91 billion and now its only worth 500 million........"

 

[Mongolikecandy]

COMAIR is not "most regionals"

Check out AWAC's also. 50 seat rate better than Skywest's blended rate

 

[SKYW Pilot]

50 seat rate better than Skywest's blended rate

Ummm... We don't have a blended rate. We could only wish. Those rates are for 50 seat RJ's, and we voted them to cover up to 99 seats. Of course, we thought we were only getting 70 seaters at the time and it was only supposed to be for 18 months. Some of us knew better and voted it down. Now we're stuck with this cruddy agreement. Mesa makes more to fly their 90's than we do. Hopefully, we'll get our act together and work to get this changed.

 

[SkyNation]

(scratchy sound of broken recored playing, over and over)

........there is more to compensation than the hourly rates.........

........there is more to compensation than the hourly rates.........

........there is more to compensation than the hourly rates.........

........there is more to compensation than the hourly rates.........

all told, SkyWest pilots earn more than all or most other regional pilots. the true measure is the gross pay on your W2.

how are things at Comair? I don't want to see them eat it, but is the status quo sustainable? are thy stable? growing? adding flying?

........there is more to compensation than the hourly rates.........

 

[ReportCanoa]

Get over your little W2. Admit you work for a non union, whipsaw regional and your owners keep you non union for a reason.