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Was in AMS last week....practically every A330 guy I ran into was on a green slip. It seems we are short in that category, which might hasten the purchase of another 330 sim because 1 just aint cutting it.
 
Now that all the chips are falling in to place, we have too many options and not enough resources. That seems to be a good place right now.
 
BILL LUMBERG said:
Was in AMS last week....practically every A330 guy I ran into was on a green slip. It seems we are short in that category, which might hasten the purchase of another 330 sim because 1 just aint cutting it.
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That supposedly has already happened, at least that's the rumor du jour.
 
If your talking about the 2nd sim.....the one from manchester....its here. Sim tech neighbor said its up and running.
 
How many Delta new-hires will be minorities or "under-represented" groups?
 
Papa Woody said:
How many Delta new-hires will be minorities or "under-represented" groups?
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Does it matter?

DAL hires qualified pilots. It has always been my impression that they do not care what the person looks like or what category they fit in to. If they meet they criteria then the person gets hired.
 
jonjuan said:
Thinking of that sex change? :)
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Nah...too expensive.

But a $6,000 legal name-change to "Rodriguez" is guaranteed to work. There's a guy at FedEx who got in that way.

No worries about hiding it.....it's ILLEGAL for a company to ask "where you from?", or say something like "you don't look like a 'Rodriguez'".

..then the Reality show: "Rosenberg-->Rodriguez: Delta Pilot!" Big bucks!
 
"So, do you have any Irish in you? No? Would you like some?"
 
ACL65PILOT said:
Does it matter?

DAL hires qualified pilots. It has always been my impression that they do not care what the person looks like or what category they fit in to. If they meet they criteria then the person gets hired.
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You sound like one of "those people."
 
ACL65PILOT said:
Does it matter?

DAL hires qualified pilots. It has always been my impression that they do not care what the person looks like or what category they fit in to. If they meet they criteria then the person gets hired.
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You might remember years ago when UAL was going on its minority hiring craze, DAL just paid the fine by not meeting EEOC requirements so they could continue to hire the most qualified pilots.
 
Programs like this let the airlines identify talent and then make sure it is funneled to their airline. It is smart. We have a few pilots here at DAL that did this program the first time. They even got the honor of doing 73N types with the FAA giving the type. I can easily say that they are more than qualified.

Quit the banter. You want to get noticed, find a way to shine.
 
Scope out RJ's said:
You might remember years ago when UAL was going on its minority hiring craze, DAL just paid the fine by not meeting EEOC requirements so they could continue to hire the most qualified pilots.
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...and a UAL 747-400, weighing almost a million pounds, took off for Sydney and nearly crashed at SFO because one of those hiring-binge gems couldn't handle a real-life engine-out...
 
One event and one pilot. The problem was fixed at UAUA. ATP mins.

Also I do not know of one pilot here at DAL hired in the last 10 years that did not have ample experience.
 
I'm not so sure. When I was a flight instructor Delta flew into WMU to give out minority scholarships. It was a full ride paid for by Delta. The ones that received the scholarships were well deserving and very bright. However, the instructors that trained them couldn't even get an interview with any Delta Connection carrier.

As soon as these minorities finished (with only a couple hundred hours) they were given interviews (mostly Comair and ASA). I have also heard several of these pilots are now at Delta with zero PIC. I wish I knew some names to check the seniority list.

Anyways, I think diversity is great but not at the cost of other more qualified applicants.
 
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Anyways, I think diversity is great but not at the cost of other more qualified applicants.[/QUOTE]

That's the problem with "diversity"....

...it specifically requires selection "at the cost of other more qualified applicants"

Otherwise, why bother even having a word which means "we bypass better-qualified applicants"?
 
Jabwmu said:
Anyways, I think diversity is great but not at the cost of other more qualified applicants.
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What exactly is "most or more qualified?"

Where does personality and cultural fit weigh in during the interview? Greatest number of hours? Largest aircraft flown? Most number of single seat fighter hours? Most number of 121 hours? Most number of years on furlough? How long one has been "screwed" by the industry? How many pond crossings one has?
 
I think experience and paying your dues is worth more than PFTers or being a certain gender or race.
 
jonjuan said:
What exactly is "most or more qualified?"

Where does personality and cultural fit weigh in during the interview?
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Good question. It's hard to get an interview based on personality and cultural fit on paper.
 
If you get a job because of your color or gender aren't we still focused on you being a minority?
 
Jabwmu said:
I'm not so sure. When I was a flight instructor Delta flew into WMU to give out minority scholarships. It was a full ride paid for by Delta. The ones that received the scholarships were well deserving and very bright. However, the instructors that trained them couldn't even get an interview with any Delta Connection carrier.

As soon as these minorities finished (with only a couple hundred hours) they were given interviews (mostly Comair and ASA). I have also heard several of these pilots are now at Delta with zero PIC. I wish I knew some names to check the seniority list.

Anyways, I think diversity is great but not at the cost of other more qualified applicants.
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This is a DAL program and DAL hires our pilots. Until then they can do what they want.

This notion that these applicants arrive at DAL with barely 1500 hrs is hot air. They go to ASA with low time, build time there for two to three years, get a 73N type to prove that they have what it takes to make it though DAL training, then get an interview. No more no less. They have to pass that too, just like you and I did.

They are given an opportunity, they are not granted a job. There is a huge difference. I beleive that a few did not pass the interview. There are plenty of pilots here with no pic time, and some are white Anglo males. If you are going to fire away at someone getting on with no PIC time make sure you understand that it goes across the spectrum or race, creed, color and religion.

DAL looks at each applicant's situation at their regional airline. If you had no PIC time and were at ASA in 1999 it raises a red flag. Why? because you could upgrade and did not. Not the case today. If you were at AMR Eagle same deal applies. They are smart ppl and do not have a blanket policy for selecting candidates to interview. Everyone exceeds DAL min hiring standards.

I did not have a 73N type when I interviewed, so I was technically less qualified than they were.

Like I said, there are going to be people with less time that get hired long before the dust is blown off some applications. Why? Connections and simply being in the right place at the right time. Best thing to do is, go make your application stand out, and quit worrying about what they others are doing. You can not change what DAL is going to do.
 
ACL65PILOT said:
They are smart ppl and do not have a blanket policy for selecting candidates to interview.
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Smart people who ran the airline BANKRUPT.

Delta is the new "Aeroflot".

I recently flew Airtran: a 14-month old 737 with cheerful crews and spiffy cabin. Contrast that with my recent Delta experience: A 22-year-old MD88 with a drafty window, gum-filled inflight mag, busted tray-table, and flight-hags ready to rip your eyeballs out if you ask for more water...

You tell me: who are the "smart ppl"??
 
Last time I checked they do not let pilots anywhere near the key to the bank. Separate the two.

Flight Ops hires pilots. Flight Ops recruits pilots. Those in charge if OBAP, WIA and other programs know what they are doing.

As for smart, both. DAL is a large machine that take time to turn. Just watch and wait.
 
Hi!

Pappa Woody: That is exactly the reason that DAL is spending $1B to retrofit the cabins of all the MDs. It sounds like they will be VERY nice inside!

cliff
LFW
 

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