Delta to Drop CHQ?

[737 Pylt]

Yeah, I know what you mean 737. Kind of like when you misspelled miserable in this post, huh? Miserible?

I can't tell by your post if you're being a d1ck, or honestly were caught off guard by it and it made you laugh. If you were just laughing and not trying to give PBR a hard time, then I am way off base and apologize.

If you're being a d1ck, well, then bite me.

Poor grammar and bad spelling drive me crazy too, but if someone makes a small mistake, but is otherwise making a clear point (whether I agree with it or not) I’m not going to call them on it.

You people amaze me sometimes. When you can’t win on substance, you go for a technicality? 737, I don’t know that you care one way or the other about this thread, but how smart is it to laugh at someone for misspelling a word when you did the same thing. The FIRST of your posts I searched contained the error.

Once again, if you were just laughing and not trying to give PBR a hard time, then I am way off base and apologize.

Ok, I’m done now. Man, I gotta get some sleep.

Joe:
Apology accepted. I was too busy laughing and not trying to give pbr a hard time!
We all need a little comedy!
737

 

[sweptback]

Then why is CHQ expanding service to ATL in MAY?

Congrats on the ATL flying, especially since the gate agents there love you.

 

[joe_pilot]

Joe:
Apology accepted. I was too busy laughing and not trying to give pbr a hard time!
We all need a little comedy!
737

Thanks 73. You're a real sport.

On a serious note, I saw you guys in SLC today. Standing with you guys 100%.

Good Luck wednesday.

-JP

 

[General Lee]

Welll,
gEneral tootles, SAPA is funded by SKYW INC. Are you suprised, I do not think that you will find many senior guys who will disagree, we get exactly what we pay for and managment gets exactly what they pay for. Are you suprised at this revelation? Oh yes, the "leaders get 105hrs of company money to deliver managments decrees, the "reps get their line credit when they are conducting the companies business, for the company, the entity that pays for their services. Any other questions?
PBR

No, not surprised at all. How are the talks going about that 1.2% raise? Any changes? Are those association guys working hard to get you your deserved cash? I hope so. If I got paid 105 hours from the company for doing SAPA work, I would be doing that nonstop---to keep getting 105 hours of pay. What a great deal. I would be talking to JA and Ronny R. every darn day. Tootles.

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[Gr82Aviate]

You know what you said doesn't make sense, right? Your 50 seat rate has a set amount for each year, up to 12 years? Right? Maybe 18 years like Comair's? Whatever. The larger the plane, the larger the pay, usually. If a 5th year Captain was supposed to make $55 an hour on the 50 seater, and still makes that on the larger 70 seater when he should have made $65 or more, wouldn't that be the same for that senior Captain who now avoids the 70? Yes, he is still flying the 50 dor the same rate he has always had, but he should be making MORE on the 70 if the pay rates were different. And, most airlines are paying 12 or more year Captains to fly their 70 seaters, vs SkyWest paying their new Cpatains who just upgraded and did the transition training. Is Jerry paying top dollar on the 50 seater? He hasn't even given you that 1.2% pay raise yet.

Bye Bye---General Lee

GL, what you said doesn't make sense, RIGHT? As usual you're trying to twist what you said earlier about how the junior guys are all flying the 70's so Jerry is getting them flown at even lower cost because of that... My point was that they still have to pay the senior guys the top rate whether that is in the 50 or 70 seater, so they aren't really getting lower cost overall as you insinuated with your argument that the junior crews flying the 70's is what "Jerry wants" because then it costs even lesss.

 

[Gr82Aviate]

I don't hate everyone, I just am direct and to the point with my opinions. I think we at DL have a lot wrong too, and I have stated such. And, these are just my opinions, so try to remember that. The SkyWest pilot group has it's head up it's a$$. What's with their "union" and why does management appoint the leaders? Is that wrong or what? Ridiculous. And they started the whole "we'll fly anything for one pay rate" deal and now others have been FORCED to follow (via a judge).


Bye Bye--General Lee

Before you go making your typical blanket statements like the one above, you might want to realize that a lot of us voted against the TA !!! So, try and ease up a little with your overall hatred, and or being so "direct and to the point" with all your opinions...

 

[Gr82Aviate]

Then your senior guys mostly started to avoid that CR7 because of the pay deal, which is really what the company wanted anyway. You see, now they upgrade people and make them take the CR7 conversion training, and then put them in the left seat, at an actual LOWER rate--since most have less longevity at the company. So, a 5 year Captain flies a larger plane for less per hour than a 10 year guy who avoids it. What a mess. But, your CFO feels INSULATED from the threat of higher gas bills, and higher labor costs.


Bye Bye--General Lee

This is the post I was referring to wherein you make it sound like the "company wants the junior guys flying the CR7", as if that is somehow going to save them more money. My point was they have to pay the senior guys the top rate whether it in the 50 or 70, so your argument didn't hold much water...Hope that cleared things up a little better?

 

[General Lee]

This is the post I was referring to wherein you make it sound like the "company wants the junior guys flying the CR7", as if that is somehow going to save them more money. My point was they have to pay the senior guys the top rate whether it in the 50 or 70, so your argument didn't hold much water...Hope that cleared things up a little better?

Top rate? Compared to which airlines? Your top rate, at 18 year Captain, is $93 an hour, and there probably aren't that many guys who are at that stage. A 12 year Captain makes $78 an hour on the 50/70 at SkyWest, and at Eagle and ASA they make $85/86 an hour on the CR7. An extra $7 an hour (which you SHOULD have on your CR7) multiplied by 85 hours a month is almost $600 a month, or $7200 extra a year. Your senior guys are "mad" at the company (which they should be) and the majority aren't flying it, and the junior guys just off of upgrade are, since they are now trained for the CR7 in the sim. SkyWest understands this, and also knows that their 5 year Captain rate is $6 less per hour compared to Eagle, $5 less than ASA, $1 less than Comair, $3 less than PSA, and only $1 more than MESA. How well is SkyWest doing again? I know most of you voted down the TA, but what are you going to do now? We are in a fight with a judge and a company in BK, you are NOT. Your acceptance of "one rate for jets" really started the ball rolling DOWNHILL.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[AVDAD]

Can't remember

How much stock does DA own of Rjet, I can't remember.

Avdad

 

[79%N1]

Top rate? Compared to which airlines? Your top rate, at 18 year Captain, is $93 an hour, and there probably aren't that many guys who are at that stage. A 12 year Captain makes $78 an hour on the 50/70 at SkyWest, and at Eagle and ASA they make $85/86 an hour on the CR7. An extra $7 an hour (which you SHOULD have on your CR7) multiplied by 85 hours a month is almost $600 a month, or $7200 extra a year. Your senior guys are "mad" at the company (which they should be) and the majority aren't flying it, and the junior guys just off of upgrade are, since they are now trained for the CR7 in the sim. SkyWest understands this, and also knows that their 5 year Captain rate is $6 less per hour compared to Eagle, $5 less than ASA, $1 less than Comair, $3 less than PSA, and only $1 more than MESA. How well is SkyWest doing again? I know most of you voted down the TA, but what are you going to do now? We are in a fight with a judge and a company in BK, you are NOT. Your acceptance of "one rate for jets" really started the ball rolling DOWNHILL.



Bye Bye--General Lee

HOLY CRAP, I AGREE WITH THE GENERAL!!!! Black is white, day is night, up is down!!!

 

[Rogue5]

Your senior guys are "mad" at the company (which they should be) and the majority aren't flying it, and the junior guys just off of upgrade are, since they are now trained for the CR7 in the sim.

General, once again you mystify me with your ability to transform your ideas into "facts."

Where on Earth do you get this idea? From your "friend" in SLC? From my perusal of the bid sheets in the various CRJ7 domiciles each month, the 700 generally goes to the top end of the bid sheet for both Captains and F.O.s due primarily to QOL issues: less legs, more credit per leg and thus more efficient trips. Generally the CR7 trips pay more and have more days off.

I have seen you make this claim several times but I have to speak out yet again to counter your proclaimed "truths" about the way things are at SkyWest as factual incorrect.

I am sorry to tell you, but you simply are not an expert in every subject that passes across your computer screen, as much as it may shock you...

 

[General Lee]

General, once again you mystify me with your ability to transform your ideas into "facts."

Where on Earth do you get this idea? From your "friend" in SLC? From my perusal of the bid sheets in the various CRJ7 domiciles each month, the 700 generally goes to the top end of the bid sheet for both Captains and F.O.s due primarily to QOL issues: less legs, more credit per leg and thus more efficient trips. Generally the CR7 trips pay more and have more days off.

I have seen you make this claim several times but I have to speak out yet again to counter your proclaimed "truths" about the way things are at SkyWest as factual incorrect.

I am sorry to tell you, but you simply are not an expert in every subject that passes across your computer screen, as much as it may shock you...

EVERY SkyWest Captain I have talked to (including my friend in SLC) refuses to fly it, even though they could easily hold CR7 lines. They won't do it. I bet the majority won't, and therefore mostly junior pilots fly it. Where are most of them flying? ORD or DEN? ORD is very junior, and the Captains there are not as senior as SLC. How many UA CR7 flights originate in SLC? I know you will have some DL trips next month from SLC, but overall your UAL CR7s departures from SLC are very small. You know I am right, but you chose to slam me because I seem to know something about your company. Hey, fix it. Keep voting NO on stupid TAs and try to get a pay difference for larger aircraft. Look how profitable you are.....


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[PBRstreetgang]

Your acceptance of "one rate for jets" really started the ball rolling DOWNHILL.


Bye Bye--General Lee

Ahaaaha,
The truth distilled to it's essence. The SKYW pilots are responsable for the entire industry's woes, wait I think that a few of the SKYW pilots are AlQueda also, that would explain everything, destroy the airline industry from the inside, by "lowering the bar" for all the pilots, which then causes, the airlines to hire the mesa rejects who are really AlQueda operatives undercover at the san juan program, which then allows them to cause customer dissatisfaction, causing reduced loads, which then causes lower profits, which then causes more flying to be transferred to regional codeshares, which then causes more global warming, due to the decreased efficency caused by RJ lack of seating and overhead bin space. So to sum it up SKYW pilots are the cause of global warming and deterioration of the polar ice caps, which causes flooding and lost passenger loads from coastal cities close to sea level ala New Orleans, which then causes gEneral toolbox to bid a smaller airframe. It is crystal clear now! I see the reason for the hate now.
PBR

 

[buscap]

hypocrite confederate officers

General Lee,

What a waste time this is for me, but you have finally warranted comment. Just how responsible for the "ball rolling" is every single DL pilot who has willingly taken a pay cut? A pay cut proportionally higher than the SKY pilots 50 to 70 seat pay disparity!!!!

Dude! Look in the mirror you none-falling-on-your-own-sword-piece-of-viagra-inflated-reproductively-challeged crap slinger.

With the exception of the nearly scabbed-out GJ pilots, we are all doing the best we can in an absolutely terrible situation, which is not of our own making.

In the end it's about food on the table, while enjoying what we do for a living. You and your ilk would deny me the chance to fly a more comfortable and safer piece of regional equipment. A piece of equipment which would you would never allow on your property for anything approaching a revenue generating range.

I fly it for the same rate I flew a turboprop, but it is safer and gives me a higher quality of life than I had on the prop by virtue of more interesting overnights and less noise related stress.

Tell me something you puke sack....how much sleep do you lose, knowing you have put so many bus drivers out of business by providing a safer and quicker means of transportation?

Dude!!!! Stick to the MAJORS board where all the other ED testimonials hang out.

Thanks,

PS. And change your handle. You disrespect an honorable man.

 

[Gr82Aviate]

Your senior guys are "mad" at the company (which they should be) and the majority aren't flying it, and the junior guys just off of upgrade are, since they are now trained for the CR7 in the sim. SkyWest understands this, and also knows that their 5 year Captain rate is $6 less per hour compared to Eagle, $5 less than ASA, $1 less than Comair, $3 less than PSA, and only $1 more than MESA. How well is SkyWest doing again? I know most of you voted down the TA, but what are you going to do now?


Bye Bye--General Lee

I'm trying really hard to be diplomatic, so here we go again: You're missing the point!!!! You keep repeating that "SkyWest understands this" regarding paying less on the 70 than others... I get what you're saying, I'm just telling you that this is no miracle plan from J.A. to save the company even more money because they're paying less for "junior" guys to fly the CR7, point is the total cost to the operation is the same regardless...So there's no giant savings for SkyWest even if it were true that the that the junior guys were bidding the CR7 and senior guys the 50! The total cost to the company is the same because they still have an overall total crew cost based on total seniority in both aircraft.