Delta the Least Respected Brand in America

[HowardBorden]

Regionals seem to be bought and sold, and they aren't put on the same certificate. SWA is putting the AT planes on their own certificate

Actually, when SWA management even hinted that they might consider operating the AirTran aircraft COMPLETELY SEPARATELY, without ever putting them on the Southwest certificate, you were one of the first to call foul along with many others. Why exactly is one different than the other? And by all means, feel free to move away from your normal tactics and enlighten us all with specific reasons as to why it is perfectly acceptable to operate an acquired airline on a separate certificate in one circumstance but completely wrong to do the same thing in another situation.

 

[General Lee]

Actually, when SWA management even hinted that they might consider operating the AirTran aircraft COMPLETELY SEPARATELY, without ever putting them on the Southwest certificate, you were one of the first to call foul along with many others. Why exactly is one different than the other? And by all means, feel free to move away from your normal tactics and enlighten us all with specific reasons as to why it is perfectly acceptable to operate an acquired airline on a separate certificate in one circumstance but completely wrong to do the same thing in another situation.

Well Howie, DL's contract doesn't allow subsidiary airlines with mainline sized planes. Neither should you. It did take a year or so to get the FAA etc to sign off on a single certificate,(with NWA) but a joint contract with equal pay for equal planes was done as quickly as possible. If not, that would create outsourcing at lower pay rates for the same type plane (like you're doing now!)..... Any more questions Howie? If you can't figure out that flying AT 737s at lower wages at the same time you are flying SWA 737s for higher pay is wrong, (and your union signed off on that) then you are clueless.


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[HowardBorden]

Well Howie, DL's contract doesn't allow subsidiary airlines with mainline sized planes. Neither should you. It did take a year or so to get the FAA etc to sign off on a single certificate,(with NWA) but a joint contract with equal pay for equal planes was done as quickly as possible. If not, that would create outsourcing at lower pay rates for the same type plane (like you're doing now!)..... Any more questions Howie? If you can't figure out that flying AT 737s at lower wages at the same time you are flying SWA 737s for higher pay is wrong, (and your union signed off on that) then you are clueless.


Bye Bye---General Lee

Of course our contract doesn't allow it, we have the tightest scope in the industry. Actually our CBA doesn't allow any sized aircraft to be operated by anyone not on the SWAPA seniority list. I just found it humorous to watch so many object so loudly to a practice they were actively engaging in.

 

[maxblast72]

Posting personal emails on a forum isn't cool.

The emails I posted above have been introduced as exhibits in the current DFR lawsuit against ALPA. Why shouldn't guys have accurate information when trying to figure out what happened 2 summers ago?

 

[General Lee]

The emails I posted above have been introduced as exhibits in the current DFR lawsuit against ALPA. Why shouldn't guys have accurate information when trying to figure out what happened 2 summers ago?

Max, you march toward SWA System Chief pilot is well underway....


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[redflyer65]

Max, you march toward SWA System Chief pilot is well underway....


Bye Bye---General Lee

You're well ahead of him in the Chief Village Idiot position. Over 22 thousand post and 64 in less than 3 days.

I'm glad Southwest doesn't obtain 20% of their revenue from outsourcing 50% of their domestic flying. That's pretty embarrassing.

 

[canyonblue]

You're well ahead of him in the Chief Village Idiot position. Over 22 thousand post and 64 in less than 3 days.

I'm glad Southwest doesn't obtain 20% of their revenue from outsourcing 50% of their domestic flying. That's pretty embarrassing.

Delta sucks, that's what I've believed for years. No mainline sized aircraft as regionals, that comment alone is a sad commentary. Delta's scope allows 70 seat aircraft, precisely the size of the Northwest DC9-10 when they flew them. Get ready for the next 20 years, the explosive growth of DCI.

Pathetic.

uke:

 

[General Lee]

Delta sucks, that's what I've believed for years. No mainline sized aircraft as regionals, that comment alone is a sad commentary. Delta's scope allows 70 seat aircraft, precisely the size of the Northwest DC9-10 when they flew them. Get ready for the next 20 years, the explosive growth of DCI.

Pathetic.

uke:

Funny stuff. Thanks for the 88 717s you guys are paying DL to take. ($120 million in refurb?). DCI has been chopped to pieces, with 140 fewer RJs in the next 3 years. Then, a new ratio for domestic flights increased the mainline percentage, and decreased DCI. What you say just isn't accurate, at all. Not surprising either.


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[SWA Bubba]

Funny stuff. Thanks for the 88 717s you guys are paying DL to take. ($120 million in refurb?). DCI has been chopped to pieces, with 140 fewer RJs in the next 3 years. Then, a new ratio for domestic flights increased the mainline percentage, and decreased DCI. What you say just isn't accurate, at all. Not surprising either.


Bye Bye---General Lee

Well, you're certainly the expert on saying things that aren't accurate!

Bubba

 

[General Lee]

Well, you're certainly the expert on saying things that aren't accurate!

Bubba

Oh yeah, riiiiight, like the part about many AT guys being upset about their treatment in the SLI, multiple leg days, stagnation, and you starting to lose LCC status? Right.... All lies!


Bye Bye---General Lee