Delta, the biggest and the best?.....article

[UALjan15]

There is no fuzzy math. The $2.1B claim was for concessions the $650M note was distributed as a result of the DB termination, in addition the PBGC received a $2.2B claim which will fund PC-5 redistributions.


Each active pilot received a note allocation which covers at least 100% of his accrued qualified DB loss. Non-qualified, earnings over $205,000, are covered at 60 cents on the dollar.


The accrued DB loss will be funded by a combination of the pilots MPPP, which was part of the DB plan and rolled over into his own name dollar for dollar, PBGC PC-3/PC-4 payments, PC-5 redistribution (folks forget that the PBGC had a $2.2B claim which is used to fund additional earned pension payments above the PC-3/Pc-4 payments) and the note.

The note contained $650M, the MPPP about the same and the PBGC claim, if it pays out at 45 cents on the dollar, an additional $990M.

Head spinning now.....this info looks to be the whole picture. Thanks.

 

[Tanker Clown]

TankerClown, if you'd take a break from getting yourself off thinking about Southwest, you'd realize that Southwest did not set the industry standard in wages. The fact is that the Legacies came down to Southwest's pay and work rules in the past few years. Southwest has not raised the bar, nor will ever raise the bar. It is up to the Legacies to again raise the bar without any help from WN.

Peanuckle,

I totally agree with you. 10 years ago, when you were looking for an airline job, SWA was a stepping stone (mostly due to salary). Now, the legacies are more of a stepping stone to Fed Ex/UPS/SWA. You guys should thank SWA for doing something you guys could never do, maintain your wages. If it weren't for SWA holding the bar, you would be paid even less.

Is this a good thing? To me it's not! I'm hoping that you guys will stop spending your time being in awe of your international operation and what your mgt says, and more time trying to get what you deserve. The way you are going, you won't be making your 2000 wages for another decade. That's before inflation.

Man up! Remember Samuel L. Jackson's character in Pulp Fiction? He said, "Do I look like a b!tch? Then why are you trying to treat me like a b!tch?" Mgt will treat you like a b!tch if you continue to take it like one.

 

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Nevermind....

 

[737 Pylt]

Peanuckle,

I totally agree with you. 10 years ago, when you were looking for an airline job, SWA was a stepping stone (mostly due to salary). Now, the legacies are more of a stepping stone to Fed Ex/UPS/SWA. You guys should thank SWA for doing something you guys could never do, maintain your wages. If it weren't for SWA holding the bar, you would be paid even less.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Is this a good thing? To me it's not! I'm hoping that you guys will stop spending your time being in awe of your international operation and what your mgt says, and more time trying to get what you deserve. The way you are going, you won't be making your 2000 wages for another decade. That's before inflation.

Isn't it time for the colone's coffee?

Man up! Remember Samuel L. Jackson's character in Pulp Fiction? He said, "Do I look like a b!tch? Then why are you trying to treat me like a b!tch?"

Mostly because you are!:laugh:
Remember Dirty Harry? "When I want your opinion, I'll give it to you!"

Mgt will treat you like a b!tch if you continue to take it like one.

Thanks for the laughs, when I need advice on how to serve coffee or how to sharpen pencils, I'll give you a shout, private!

737

 

[737 Pylt]

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[jke406]

Back from your banishment, 737 Pylt? It was much better without you.

I guess it gave you a chance to post as your other screen names--General Lee, Heavy Set, Scope Out RJs, JMoney, etc. etc.

 

[Tanker Clown]

Dude, why do you post you little laughing faces when it's your pay that's the joke now. I'm hoping that you would agree that it's time to get your money back. I guess that would require a spine...and it seems that a spine is lacking at DALPA.

Get the colonel's coffee. Real original 737. That's as original as you guys rolling over and taking it in the a$$ from your mgt.

My gawd. I don't even work at Delta and I seem to give more of a sh!t about your well-being than you do. YOU GET PAID LESS THAN A GUPPY DRIVER WHO DOESN'T LEAVE TEXAS!!!! You should be mad....but you look content to take whatever Anderson gives you. 1.5% raise while inflation is 4.4%. If you listen to you and GL, you'd think that was the deal of the century.

AMR is asking for a 53% raise while you brag about your 1.5% raise. You aren't a whole lot better than a guy looking to build time at Skybus.

 

[737 Pylt]

Dude, why do you post you little laughing faces when it's your pay that's the joke now. I'm hoping that you would agree that it's time to get your money back. I guess that would require a spine...and it seems that a spine is lacking at DALPA.

Get the colonel's coffee. Real original 737. That's as original as you guys rolling over and taking it in the a$$ from your mgt.

My gawd. I don't even work at Delta and I seem to give more of a sh!t about your well-being than you do. YOU GET PAID LESS THAN A GUPPY DRIVER WHO DOESN'T LEAVE TEXAS!!!! You should be mad....but you look content to take whatever Anderson gives you. 1.5% raise while inflation is 4.4%. If you listen to you and GL, you'd think that was the deal of the century.

AMR is asking for a 53% raise while you brag about your 1.5% raise. You aren't a whole lot better than a guy looking to build time at Skybus.

And to think it only took you a few minutes to sign out as jerk406 and sign back in as tanker clown.
Can we expect to hear from your alter ego jmoney soon?
Question for you clown, why is it you do care so much about our/DAL pay?
You seem to get off on the fact of reminding, on every post that we get paid squat! Yet you never seem to post any negatives that a 747 pilot for UAL/NWA gets paid less than a 737 pilot a LUV (of which you don't even work)? Why is that?
Maybe its envy? Because maybe, just maybe you reallly are just a coffee errand boy for the colonel and sharpen pencils while surfing the net for gay porn!
Got some advice for you dude. You worry about getting hired at Southwest, when you get more than 1000 hours, and we'll worry about our pay, which is more than most legacy carriers out there!

737

 

[Tanker Clown]

And to think it only took you a few minutes to sign out as jerk406 and sign back in as tanker clown.
Can we expect to hear from your alter ego jmoney soon?
Question for you clown, why is it you do care so much about our/DAL pay?

You seem to get off on the fact of reminding, on every post that we get paid squat! Yet you never seem to post any negatives that a 747 pilot for UAL/NWA gets paid less than a 737 pilot a LUV (of which you don't even work)? Why is that?
Maybe its envy? Because maybe, just maybe you reallly are just a coffee errand boy for the colonel and sharpen pencils while surfing the net for gay porn!
Got some advice for you dude. You worry about getting hired at Southwest, when you get more than 1000 hours, and we'll worry about our pay, which is more than most legacy carriers out there!

737

I care about DAL pay because you guys are in a pretty good position these days. Now is your time to demand your lost wages. Unfortunately, you are obviously too big of a pu$$y to do this. If Delta can afford to grow the way it is, it can afford to pay it's pilots more than a lowly guppy driver in TX.

While your pay is more than most legacies, it's still less than a LCC out of TX flying nothing but guppies.

The real sad thing is this, why am I fighting this battle for you? Why don't you grab a pair and do it yourself. Are you in the same union as Skybus? It's getting hard to tell you guys apart.

 

[737 Pylt]

I care about DAL pay because you guys are in a pretty good position these days.

No you do it cause you like to flame!

Now is your time to demand your lost wages. Unfortunately, you are obviously too big of a pu$$y to do this. If Delta can afford to grow the way it is, it can afford to pay it's pilots more than a lowly guppy driver in TX.

This is where you total lack of clueless shows....Section six opens up and we will show the company our opener. You don't just go in and demand a raise while working under a PWA, but as an errand boy, I wouldn't expect you to understand.
If the NWA/DAL merger goes through, we stand to gain 20% raises, while the NWA guys will earn 30% raises, not too bad, but again, as a non airline guy I don't expect you to understand, you're just too far disconnected. Stick to your desktop flight sim....

While your pay is more than most legacies, it's still less than a LCC out of TX flying nothing but guppies.

Then take it up with the rest of the legacies, or better yet, take it up with LUV since they're the ones bringing the industry pay down to their level!

The real sad thing is this, why am I fighting this battle for you?

You're not, you're trying to flame, something you've done since day one, along with your other names like jerk406, jmoney, and others.

Why don't you grab a pair and do it yourself. Are you in the same union as Skybus?

Keep telling yourself you're informed, the laughter is unstoppable!

It's getting hard to tell you guys apart.

Its real easy, we're the ones wearing the double breasted jackets laughing at misinformed trolls like yourself.:laugh:

737