Delta/Skywest cuts in SLC

[Jon Rivoli]

Exactly!

 

[COOPERVANE]

All I know is Formula 1 should post more often.

Gotta love that avatar

 

[spg2bmd]

If Delta/NWA pulled the plug on SLC they would in effect be abandoning the entire west coast. Should they actually do this it would automatically trigger SKYW contingency plan 3C5 option 2 whereby SKYW would immediately acquire the Alaska Air Group to form a west coast powerhouse backed by an exclusive fuel purchase agreement secretly negotiated with Hugo Chaves; Jet A1 for 25 cents per gallon. I know this to be true as I negotiated the deal myself through my myspace account while on a layover in SFO last week.

I can back Jon up on this, he used my Blackberry for negotiations.

 

[Jon Rivoli]

Thanks Bro!

 

[TAWS]

increased ops out of LAX i'd suspect. remember, United's scope threw out the compeitition clause, so Skywest can operate for UAL and DAL out of the same airport. It will get interesting.

I'm not sure about this one....

Shuttle couldn't operate the E-jets for Frontier out of DEN because of UALs competition clause - that's why Republic do it. Not, as many think, because Shuttle is scoped by # of seats......

I think SkyWest could certainly operate both out of LAX, but UAL might have something to say about it.

 

[WAVIT Inbound]

I'm not sure about this one....

Shuttle couldn't operate the E-jets for Frontier out of DEN because of UALs competition clause - that's why Republic do it. Not, as many think, because Shuttle is scoped by # of seats......

I think SkyWest could certainly operate both out of LAX, but UAL might have something to say about it.

United would have no say in the matter. United had a clause in the contract that prevented Skywest from flying for another carrier out of LAX. However that was restructured when the deal ws made to add all the 700's that are coming to replace the EMB. Now Skywest can do as they please in LAX.

 

[HockleyPilot]

I'm not sure about this one....

Shuttle couldn't operate the E-jets for Frontier out of DEN because of UALs competition clause - that's why Republic do it. Not, as many think, because Shuttle is scoped by # of seats......

I think SkyWest could certainly operate both out of LAX, but UAL might have something to say about it.

Like it really matters.... It's just a shell game anyway with those tickets...

 

[~~~^~~~]

If Delta/NWA pulled the plug on SLC they would in effect be abandoning the entire west coast. Should they actually do this it would automatically trigger SKYW contingency plan 3C5 option 2 whereby SKYW would immediately acquire the Alaska Air Group to form a west coast powerhouse backed by an exclusive fuel purchase agreement secretly negotiated with Hugo Chaves; Jet A1 for 25 cents per gallon. I know this to be true as I negotiated the deal myself through my myspace account while on a layover in SFO last week.

Love it

Delta and SkyWest are not the happiest couple in codeshare land right now for sure. Jerry likes to think 4 moves ahead. Plan 3C5 Option 2 might be a go.

Right now the focus is on international flying no one is even performing yet. The narrowbody domestic system that feeds the majors - ehh - small jets, take care of themselves.

Good for AirTran and SkyWest...

 

[time builder]

Just my opinion, but any rumor or threat to close down SLC is mostly a scare tactic to keep things competitive.

Put people on edge about their job, and you might see them take pay concessions, or at least stop pushing for a raise.

I'm seeing similar things in the Cargo world. Their tactics may seem like management nonsense, but they're obviously trying to keep the pressure on, and labor costs down.

 

[Speedtape]

Just my opinion, but any rumor or threat to close down SLC is mostly a scare tactic to keep things competitive.

Put people on edge about their job, and you might see them take pay concessions, or at least stop pushing for a raise.

I'm seeing similar things in the Cargo world. Their tactics may seem like management nonsense, but they're obviously trying to keep the pressure on, and labor costs down.

ilia

SLC will close when the merger takes place! However, if you will agree to fly the 700's and 900's at 1990 Brasilia rates, there may be a chance you can save the base closing!

 

[pipers]

I'm not sure about this one....

Shuttle couldn't operate the E-jets for Frontier out of DEN because of UALs competition clause - that's why Republic do it. Not, as many think, because Shuttle is scoped by # of seats......

I think SkyWest could certainly operate both out of LAX, but UAL might have something to say about it.

UAL did have something to say about it...its true. They released SkyWest when the made that announcement to replace 20ish EMB120's with the CRJ over the next few year.

It seems as though they will move the DL 900's from ATL to LAX with a base in the next few years. Isn't express-jets contract for 2 years?

 

[Speedtape]

Delta had SLC on the chopping blocks when it closed DFW. The only reason it was not closed was that Delta needed money from Skywest for the ASA sale so that Delta would have the money to pay lawyers and post deposits with credit card companies, so that it could enter bankruptcy and exit with enough cash.

The merge may be announced this week. Whenever that happens, if you are based in SLC, be prepared to relocate to LAX. It's coming!

Or apply at Southwest, as SLC may be the next Southwest crew base.

 

[bmpilot2003]

LAX would be great! Can't wait!

 

[WAVIT Inbound]

Delta had SLC on the chopping blocks when it closed DFW. The only reason it was not closed was that Delta needed money from Skywest for the ASA sale so that Delta would have the money to pay lawyers and post deposits with credit card companies, so that it could enter bankruptcy and exit with enough cash.

The merge may be announced this week. Whenever that happens, if you are based in SLC, be prepared to relocate to LAX. It's coming!

Or apply at Southwest, as SLC may be the next Southwest crew base.

Won't happen, although I wouldnt mind. LAX would be a disaster

 

[Mercyful Fate]

Funny...merger isn't even done and people are ready to close SLC and move to LAX. Tell ya what, IF the merger even happens, then start the talk...I cannot believe this stuff is even being discussed...I heard SLC will be closed and the hub moved to EKO. That was from the horses mouth

 

[Truckdriver]

I heard that Delta has had it with SkyWest and is going to work out a way to get out of the "contract" during the merger. They then plan on moving XJT in to do all the 50-seat flying on a pro-rate basis and SkyWest will keep the 700 flying. The 900 flying will go to ATL to be done by Freedom and Pinnacle and all 900 flying in SLC is going to be replaced by more MD90's coming in the next few months. I also remember an article that quoted the mayor of SLC stating that Delta had approached them about incentives for growth after a merger with NWA. I think we'll see London and Rome added to the Paris flights this summer.

 

[cfi_greg]

Funny...merger isn't even done and people are ready to close SLC and move to LAX. Tell ya what, IF the merger even happens, then start the talk...I cannot believe this stuff is even being discussed...I heard SLC will be closed and the hub moved to EKO. That was from the horses mouth

I heard from a ramper who's dating a baggage handler who heard it from her sister who's friend is JA's maid that over heard him say new base in LAS.

 

[cfi_greg]

I don't think the US's largest regional is going anywhere. But who knows

 

[WAVIT Inbound]

I heard that Delta has had it with SkyWest and is going to work out a way to get out of the "contract" during the merger. They then plan on moving XJT in to do all the 50-seat flying on a pro-rate basis and SkyWest will keep the 700 flying. The 900 flying will go to ATL to be done by Freedom and Pinnacle and all 900 flying in SLC is going to be replaced by more MD90's coming in the next few months. I also remember an article that quoted the mayor of SLC stating that Delta had approached them about incentives for growth after a merger with NWA. I think we'll see London and Rome added to the Paris flights this summer.

You must be an xjt FO. This is all I have been hearing from XJT guys since they came to SLC. If Skywest felt that threatened they would just buy them out.

 

[Truckdriver]

You must be an xjt FO. This is all I have been hearing from XJT guys since they came to SLC. If Skywest felt that threatened they would just buy them out.

Not at XJT anymore. I would have agreed with you on the buyout about 6 years ago, but I'm not sure SkyWest wants to purchase an airline that has 274 50-seat jets at this point in time. Not much upside to a large 50 seat only operation. XJT has been forced into a position to do pro-rate flying which is a much better deal for Delta so the flying will keep coming XJT's way.