Delta/Skywest cuts in SLC

[pipers]

I'm not sure about this one....

Shuttle couldn't operate the E-jets for Frontier out of DEN because of UALs competition clause - that's why Republic do it. Not, as many think, because Shuttle is scoped by # of seats......

I think SkyWest could certainly operate both out of LAX, but UAL might have something to say about it.

UAL did have something to say about it...its true. They released SkyWest when the made that announcement to replace 20ish EMB120's with the CRJ over the next few year.

It seems as though they will move the DL 900's from ATL to LAX with a base in the next few years. Isn't express-jets contract for 2 years?

 

[Speedtape]

Delta had SLC on the chopping blocks when it closed DFW. The only reason it was not closed was that Delta needed money from Skywest for the ASA sale so that Delta would have the money to pay lawyers and post deposits with credit card companies, so that it could enter bankruptcy and exit with enough cash.

The merge may be announced this week. Whenever that happens, if you are based in SLC, be prepared to relocate to LAX. It's coming!

Or apply at Southwest, as SLC may be the next Southwest crew base.

 

[bmpilot2003]

LAX would be great! Can't wait!

 

[WAVIT Inbound]

Delta had SLC on the chopping blocks when it closed DFW. The only reason it was not closed was that Delta needed money from Skywest for the ASA sale so that Delta would have the money to pay lawyers and post deposits with credit card companies, so that it could enter bankruptcy and exit with enough cash.

The merge may be announced this week. Whenever that happens, if you are based in SLC, be prepared to relocate to LAX. It's coming!

Or apply at Southwest, as SLC may be the next Southwest crew base.

Won't happen, although I wouldnt mind. LAX would be a disaster

 

[Mercyful Fate]

Funny...merger isn't even done and people are ready to close SLC and move to LAX. Tell ya what, IF the merger even happens, then start the talk...I cannot believe this stuff is even being discussed...I heard SLC will be closed and the hub moved to EKO. That was from the horses mouth

 

[Truckdriver]

I heard that Delta has had it with SkyWest and is going to work out a way to get out of the "contract" during the merger. They then plan on moving XJT in to do all the 50-seat flying on a pro-rate basis and SkyWest will keep the 700 flying. The 900 flying will go to ATL to be done by Freedom and Pinnacle and all 900 flying in SLC is going to be replaced by more MD90's coming in the next few months. I also remember an article that quoted the mayor of SLC stating that Delta had approached them about incentives for growth after a merger with NWA. I think we'll see London and Rome added to the Paris flights this summer.

 

[cfi_greg]

Funny...merger isn't even done and people are ready to close SLC and move to LAX. Tell ya what, IF the merger even happens, then start the talk...I cannot believe this stuff is even being discussed...I heard SLC will be closed and the hub moved to EKO. That was from the horses mouth

I heard from a ramper who's dating a baggage handler who heard it from her sister who's friend is JA's maid that over heard him say new base in LAS.

 

[cfi_greg]

I don't think the US's largest regional is going anywhere. But who knows

 

[WAVIT Inbound]

I heard that Delta has had it with SkyWest and is going to work out a way to get out of the "contract" during the merger. They then plan on moving XJT in to do all the 50-seat flying on a pro-rate basis and SkyWest will keep the 700 flying. The 900 flying will go to ATL to be done by Freedom and Pinnacle and all 900 flying in SLC is going to be replaced by more MD90's coming in the next few months. I also remember an article that quoted the mayor of SLC stating that Delta had approached them about incentives for growth after a merger with NWA. I think we'll see London and Rome added to the Paris flights this summer.

You must be an xjt FO. This is all I have been hearing from XJT guys since they came to SLC. If Skywest felt that threatened they would just buy them out.

 

[Truckdriver]

You must be an xjt FO. This is all I have been hearing from XJT guys since they came to SLC. If Skywest felt that threatened they would just buy them out.

Not at XJT anymore. I would have agreed with you on the buyout about 6 years ago, but I'm not sure SkyWest wants to purchase an airline that has 274 50-seat jets at this point in time. Not much upside to a large 50 seat only operation. XJT has been forced into a position to do pro-rate flying which is a much better deal for Delta so the flying will keep coming XJT's way.

 

[cfi_greg]

Not at XJT anymore. I would have agreed with you on the buyout about 6 years ago, but I'm not sure SkyWest wants to purchase an airline that has 274 50-seat jets at this point in time. Not much upside to a large 50 seat only operation. XJT has been forced into a position to do pro-rate flying which is a much better deal for Delta so the flying will keep coming XJT's way.

That is the stupidest business plan I have ever heard of. So XJT will keep losing money by flying for delta at cost in order to secure more flying so they can lose even more money. I guess you guys don't have long term goals.

 

[WAVIT Inbound]

Not at XJT anymore. I would have agreed with you on the buyout about 6 years ago, but I'm not sure SkyWest wants to purchase an airline that has 274 50-seat jets at this point in time. Not much upside to a large 50 seat only operation. XJT has been forced into a position to do pro-rate flying which is a much better deal for Delta so the flying will keep coming XJT's way.

A buyout would be to eliminate competition in SLC. Period. I don't think they would really care for the airframes. They belong to Continental anyways.

A side note on Pro-rate. Xjt pays there own fuel on these yes? Do you really think they can keep making money on Pro-rate flying? There is only so much of this that can be done and not bleed red ink. If there was money to be made in pro-rate don't you think more regionals would be doing more of it. I am pretty sure if there was money to be made Skywest would go pro-rate as well to keep all that flying. But hey what do I know? I just fly the planes.

 

[XPOO]

Look...if Delta is STUPID enough to give up the SLC hub, I am fully positive that United would have no problem stepping in. SkyWest would already be set up and United could move right in and Southwest could expand as well.

 

[rickair7777]

Look...if Delta is STUPID enough to give up the SLC hub, I am fully positive that United would have no problem stepping in. SkyWest would already be set up and United could move right in and Southwest could expand as well.

Yeah, the fact is that SKW owns the gates and airplanes, and many of the outstation gates. If DAL packed up and left, SKW would just send the planes to the paint shop for UAX colors.

But I'm certain there's not enough capacity at LAX to absorb all of the SLC DAL flying...unless they want to just give up on the inter-mountain west.

 

[DoinTime]

Look...if Delta is STUPID enough to give up the SLC hub, I am fully positive that United would have no problem stepping in. SkyWest would already be set up and United could move right in and Southwest could expand as well.

Right.....I bet United is waiting with baited breath to open up another hub right next door to Denver.