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Delta mainline back to Juneau? Looks like it in late May...

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Notice that was a hedge fund manager trying to make a case for it, and I wonder if he owns any stock?


And read this gem: hilarious...

Acquirers ?like to find those bargain kind of companies that are profitable,? David James, director of research at Alpha, Ohio-based James Investment, said in a phone interview. ?I could see one of the bigger ones looking to take them over. It?s got a really good niche market within Alaska and then some other key parts within the continental United States and Canada.?
James Investment oversees about $4.8 billion, including shares of Seattle-based Alaska.



"I can see one of the BIGGER ONES.... Looking to take them over...."


Wow, that was amazing....


Bye Bye---General Lee
 
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December 23, 2013 11:25 AM ET
Delta Air Lines and Alaska Air Merger: Not Going to Happen
By Ben Levisoh

Last week, rumors, or should I say ?speculation,? emerged that Delta Air Lines (DAL) was considering a play for Alaska Air (ALK), another in a long line of mergers that we thought had culminated with the American Airlines (AAL)/U.S. Airways combination.

AP
Cowen?s Helane Becker and Conor Cunningham tell investors not to get their hopes up for a Delta Air Lines play on Alaska Air.

Alaska Air Group shares were up 4.1% Friday following a Bloomberg article discussing the idea that the company was a likely merger candidate for a major US airline. Delta was specifically mentioned as a likely buyer because the airline is building out Seattle as an international hub and needs feeder traffic to support its growing presence in the market. Delta will have more than 2500 international seats per day to 25 destinations on 79 peak day departures from Seattle starting next summer. There are five flights to Asia and three to Europe. Alaska Air is Delta?s code-share partner, but given the fact that Alaska has code-share agreements with other airlines and flies 90%+ full in the summer, there is limited capacity for Delta?s passengers. In addition, Delta is trying to change traveler behavior, to encourage flying through Seattle rather than through Vancouver, Los Angeles or San Francisco.
And regulatory approval? Not going to happen, Becker and Cunningham say.

They write:

We believe any transaction involving Delta Air Lines is sure to be heavily scrutinized by the regulators. Given the difficulty which the American Airlines / US Airways merger had, we seriously doubt the Department of Justice would approve an acquisition of Alaska Airlines, especially given the route overlap. Delta recently announced seasonal service to Anchorage, Fairbanks and Juneau and Alaska announced new service from Salt Lake City to Boise, San Francisco and Las Vegas. Earlier this week Alaska announced Anchorage-Las Vegas and Anchorage-Phoenix service.

It seems like the market agrees today. Shares of Delta Air Lines have gained 0.3% to $27.64, while Alaska Air has dropped 2.3% to $71.78. American Airlines is down 0.5%


Bye Bye---General Lee
 
Say what you want about GL CP, but then you throw chum in the water like the puke you spewed above and not expect a comment?

(Gasp) weather? Oh jeeze, now you are scaring me.....only the mighty Eskimo can brave the perils of the Alaskan bush. Please Mr. Weatherman, say it ain't so....we Delta Bubbas only know JOOOL-lie thunderstorms and name all our planes JENNay!

Thanks for the big scare, we'll probably go there anyway....

It isn't that "DAL guys can't fly in weather or near mountains", it's "DAL guys are going to find out why Alaska spent so much time and money building an approach much, much better than the best available standard approach in Juneau".
 
It isn't that "DAL guys can't fly in weather or near mountains", it's "DAL guys are going to find out why Alaska spent so much time and money building an approach much, much better than the best available standard approach in Juneau".

So, Summertime weather in JNU is that bad, huh? Really? I bet the Winter can be nasty, but late May to early Oct? Come on now....


Bye Bye---General Lee
 
Plenty of nice days up there for sure, but also plenty of days that don't get to the 1000-2 needed for the best available non-RNP approach.
 
Lots of pilots think that Juneau in the summer is no problem.. Of course they have NEVER been there. Good luck delta
 
OMG! There might be some weather that necessitates a missed approach during the Summertime! That doesn't ever happen anywhere else. I guess they could turn around and go back to SEA, and try it again later.....

You guys are really getting theatrical with this. Is there scary music going on in the background in your heads? Ooooooh, aaahhh....

At least people speak English in the vicinity. Try bad weather diverts into Quito, Ecuador or Bogota... I think they will have plenty of support for Summertime Ops....



Bye Bye---General Lee
 
OMG! There might be some weather that necessitates a missed approach during the Summertime! That doesn't ever happen anywhere else. I guess they could turn around and go back to SEA, and try it again later.....

You guys are really getting theatrical with this. Is there scary music going on in the background in your heads? Ooooooh, aaahhh....

At least people speak English in the vicinity. Try bad weather diverts into Quito, Ecuador or Bogota... I think they will have plenty of support for Summertime Ops....



Bye Bye---General Lee

True .. I'm just surprised that you guys are gonna do it again .. Seems kinda silly with all the crap you need to prob ship up there and the temp people back and forth ...
 
Lots of pilots think that Juneau in the summer is no problem.. Of course they have NEVER been there. Good luck delta

When will Horizon Dash-8-400s take over for you? Will they be "prepared" for JNU weather? Looks like they did fine...



Monday, Sept. 9, 2013
Horizon Air to expand in Alaska with Bombardier Q400
By KATIE MORITZ
JUNEAU EMPIRE


A Bombardier Q400 gets refueled at Juneau International Airport Sunday afternoon in anticipation of its Monday morning flight to Fairbanks. When Horizon Air begins operating in Alaska in March, it will be the first time the fuel efficient Q400 has been flown commercially in the state.

Latest by Helterskelter 14 weeks 5 days ago
A model of plane new to Alaska skies touched down in Juneau yesterday, but didn?t have time to linger long.

A Bombardier Q400 passenger plane operated by Horizon Air stopped by Juneau on Sunday for less than 24 hours on its way to Fairbanks from Portland, Ore. The plane will be one of three Q400s used when Horizon Air, the sister company of Alaska Airlines, expands to serve Alaska starting in early March, Horizon Air President Glenn Johnson said. Representatives from Horizon Air are touring the state in the plane to showcase it as well as meet with Alaska Airlines Community Advisory Boards, he said.

Once in service, the planes will make trips between Anchorage and Fairbanks and Anchorage and Kodiak. Flights in and out of Juneau will not be affected by the new planes. However, Horizon does plan to use Juneau?s airport as a fueling station regularly, Johnson said. The plane was fueling up at Juneau International Airport late Sunday afternoon in anticipation for its Monday morning flight to Fairbanks.

Using this model of plane in Alaska comes with some perks, Johnson said. Flights will be more frequent and cost less. These planes don?t have the begrudged middle seat ? it seats only two on each side of the aisle. And the Q400 is more fuel efficient than the 737, the traditional passenger plane, he said. The Q400 uses 5.8 fuel gallons per passenger, according to an Alaska Airlines fact sheet. The 737 uses 12.7 gallons per passenger.

The Q400 seats 76 passengers, and is almost 108 feet long ? about 12 feet shorter than a 737. The three Alaska Q400s are part of Horizon?s 51-plane fleet, making the company the world?s largest Q400 operator, according to a company release. Horizon?s presence in the state will increase daily trips from Anchorage to Fairbanks from seven to nine starting in March, the release stated.



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True .. I'm just surprised that you guys are gonna do it again .. Seems kinda silly with all the crap you need to prob ship up there and the temp people back and forth ...

DL trained 1000 FNWA pilots on empty 767s, allowed each to do touch and goes at smaller airports around MSP and DTW. That must have cost a ton of money. Opening up JNU and having a few TDY employees probably will cost a lot less. Remember, the 3rd quarter of this year (JNU flights will occur during that quarter next year) had a $1.3 billion profit. Sooooooo, I don't think they are worried that much...


Bye Bye---General Lee
 
Hey ALA gang...like GL said, Lots of drama over Juneau as if it's the only place Delta will encounter mountains.

Quito, Bogota, Eagle Colorado, Kalispell, S?o Paulo don't really count and you act as if you are the only airline with the people and skillset able to buy into an RNAV/RNP approach.
 
Hey ALA gang...like GL said, Lots of drama over Juneau as if it's the only place Delta will encounter mountains.

Quito, Bogota, Eagle Colorado, Kalispell, S?o Paulo don't really count and you act as if you are the only airline with the people and skillset able to buy into an RNAV/RNP approach.

GIG, GUA, ZRH,HKG,ICN,etc.
 

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