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Oakum_Boy said:
DL pilots are whiney faggs. I've had this same sh1t happen to me before. One told me, "you're lucky you don't work for Comair, otherwise I'd give you an earful." Then the Cap. asked if we were in negotiaions, and then, "you're not going to get anything." GL, you feign empathy. I think mainline pilots love to rip on connection folks.


Sounds like you deserve that sh!t you have been getting. Did you answer him the same way you just typed it? I bet not---you are the wimp! Why don't you stand up for yourself? I would have. If anyone is going to give me $hit, I will give it back, and then I will get off and find another way to fly to my destination. You need to stand up for yourself, you really do. Stand up you flacid peni$. Floppy Cocck!


Bye Bye--General Lee
 
Yet another reason not to commute......that many fewer petty fools to wreak havoc with your life.
 
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Continued immaturity shows through with these jumpseat threads.

If you want to be mad at someone, be mad at management for their poor choices and regional outsourcing. It is not the pilots fault for taking jobs which were needed to [attempt] to pay bills.

A plus,

Le Pilote
 
Fist off?

Rock on, Davy. Looks like I got a rise out of you.

Amazing that I figured out your DCA history and all that just by reading your whiney post. You people are all the same.

JUST WHAT DID YOU HOPE TO ACHIEVE BY WHINING ON HERE?? Hmmmm? Open yourself up to attack more often. It might thicken the ole skin. Liked the mommy and penis references. Classic.



dvmthwsvan said:
Fist off, I was a skinny kid, now I am fat.
 
-9Capt said:
Was his name Thornton G. Gillins?

We had a few guys denied the J/S by him in the passed. He's a DAL MD88 skipper.

OK, I was just reading this post and not going to post my experience but that name just made my jaw drop.

When I was first hired (about 6 years ago), I jumpseated for the first time on DL. I was trying to go through ATL from an outstation. It was a station that had two very early departures on DL within an hour and fifteen minutes of each other. I missed the jumpseat on the first flight by a couple of minutes to an ASA guy, which was fine. So, I went to the next gate and asked about the JS on the next DL flight.

The gate agents gives the OK and tells me to go ahead and go down in the middle of the boarding process to talk to the crew. I was going to wait until the end, but she was insistent so that I could store my bags if I was OK'd.

So I walk down the jetway in uniform and stand by the door. The lead FA sees me and gives a very warm, "Good morning!" I say, "Morning. I'm ***** and just wondering if I might be able to talk with the captain to catch a ride?" She leans in to tell the captain, looks back out and I hear, "Express I believe." She leans out of the aircraft and says, "Go ahead and good luck."

I walk in with my ID, pilot and medical certificates out. I introduce myself to the crew. The FO was very friendly, but the CA turns to me and says, "Can't you JS on your own airline?" I told him I could but that the first flight out of the city wasn't until almost noon making a connection in EWR and since it was completely booked I just wanted to get home ASAP so I was in place for my reserve call window the next day. He says, "So what? You can't jumpseat on your own airline?" I said, "It doesn't look good." He turns and says, "Well, you better hope there is a seat in the cabin because you are not welcome on my jumpseat." The FO gives me this look of "I'm sorry" and I step out onto the jetway.

The FA steps off the airplane and says to me, "So can you ride with us?" I advised her I could ride along if there was a seat in the cabin. She asked if I would be allowed in the cockpit and I told her the captain specifically stated I could only get on if there was a cabin seat in the back. When she asked why I couldn't sit up front, I told her doesn't matter and he is the captain and is in charge so I am not rocking the boat. Her expression was one of amazement and just said, "You are not sitting in the back. We have two first class seats open and you will get one of them if there are no last minute upgrades."

So we stand there for a few minutes more and she leans into the cockpit and hear her ask, "So if we're full can he sit up here?" I didn't hear his end but heard her ask, "Why?" Then she comes out into the jetway and says, "He won't let you jumpseat because he says you are a scab and he lost too much money during the 83-85 strike to have one of your types riding in the jumpseat. I explained that you couldn't have been out of junior high during that time and you are Express, but he insisted anyone under the Continental banner is a scab." My jaw dropped.

I waited until the end and managed to get a seat back in coach after they upgraded two to first class. No big deal since I was happy to be going home.

During the flight the lead comes to talk to me and is so apologetic about being treated so badly. She explains this was a four-day trip with that captain and he had denied a UPS, UAL and USAirways pilots the jumpseat and I was lucky even to get on. The FO and FAs had gotten together and decided to tell the guy off at the end of the trip because he treated people with such disrespect. She then handed me a piece of paper and said, "Here is the information you might need should you decide to do anything with it."

I didn't know what she meant (it was months later that I found out there was a jumpseat committee at most airlines). I looked at the paper and it had on it the name of the captain, his base and his aircraft.

The name on the paper was "T***** G******." I believe we are talking about the same guy. I have never been treated with such disrespect by anyone since. I'll remember that name for the rest of my life.
 
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Oakum_Boy said:
DL pilots are whiney faggs. I've had this same sh1t happen to me before. One told me, "you're lucky you don't work for Comair, otherwise I'd give you an earful." Then the Cap. asked if we were in negotiaions, and then, "you're not going to get anything." GL, you feign empathy. I think mainline pilots love to rip on connection folks.

Spoken like a true chicken sh1t behind a keyboard! Probbably still lives with his mommy and daddy!
737
 
The Jumpseat is a privledge, not a right. It is a courtesy, not an obligation.

Delta guys don't owe anyone a jumpseat, but most are eager to have a friend along for the ride to share stories with. You Comair pilots have done a lot to offend everyone in Delta service.

Perhaps a Maxim magazine, some M&M's, or something might change the subject to a topic other than "what a bunch of jerks Comair pilots are." You know, pilots are easily distracted by shiny trinkets, junk food and pictures of women.

Good goes round as they say.....
 
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SUNDOWN said:
After reading all of this...doesn't the 10% rule seem a little conservative?
Depends on what sorts of malfeasance your pilot group has engaged in to undermine the profession.

I would guess that the Comair guys bring out the Ten Percenters, one hundred percent of the time.
 
You Comair pilots have done a lot to offend everyone in Delta service.

How many Comair pilots weren't around when the pissing match started?? There are hundreds of pilots on the list that weren't here when the MECs had their issues.

To make a blanket statement like that is both ignorant and moronic.

Hope you enjoy the bottom of Skywest's list.
 
During my career I commuted for almost 8 years and I want to officially thank all the Delta crews welcoming me to their flight deck. I never once had someone deny the JS because I was a CMR pilot.

Did have some interesting conversations over the last few years and had to explain the PID, RJDC and the relationships between the small jet providers and mainline.

Always left with a thank you, hand shake and a welcome to our JS without reservation or hesitation.
 
Al Coholic said:
How many Comair pilots weren't around when the pissing match started?? There are hundreds of pilots on the list that weren't here when the MECs had their issues.

To make a blanket statement like that is both ignorant and moronic.

Hope you enjoy the bottom of Skywest's list.
Hey Al's Colostomy bag, you guys just voted for the Concessions that screwed your ASA pilots in negotiations. Our support helped you get what you have. But thanks for your attitude - like I said - you guys bring out the 10% in your Connection brothers, 100% of the time.
 
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Stop blaming other for your own inadequacies

Dude,

I'm not happy with the outcome of the vote but get real. The LOA has no effect on your negiotiations... or lack of. You've gone backwards in 2 years and you think this freeze is the reason.

Maybe if you guys spent half the time you're on here trying to better your company and contract, rather than blaming CMR for your problems, things might get accomplished.

Get over it and move on.
 
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Hey Al's Colostomy bag, you guys just voted for the Concessions that screwed your ASA pilots in negotiations. Our support helped you get what you have. But thanks for your attitude - like I said - you guys bring out the 10% in your Connection brothers, 100% of the time.

The sacrifice should help you, not hurt you. And besides, how would our martyrdom have helped you? Do you honestly think a "no" vote was going to help?

Our contract still has the best QOL and pay tables. Why aren't you asking your management for it? I would love to know what their objections would be. Obviously it's acceptable to DAL management.

In the interest of pattern bargaining (since 9/11 and the economic downturn as people like to say), it is still better than the CoEx contract (not knocking on the CoEx guys).

And besides, I don't appreciate you lying to me about being offered the Comair contract. More than one source (including your fellow pilots) has confirmed that wasn't true.

Ward
 
It's the 5% rule. Every airline has them. They are the small group that are complete "A"holes to whoever they meet. They even treat thier own people badly. You see it on a daily basis on this very board.

Ignore the 5%, they usually self-destruct in a matter of time.
 
Next time take down his information and then say, Thanks anyways I don't need your jumpseat. It will never cease to amaze me how many panty waste pricks are in this buisness.

Granted it's a privledge to jump seat on anyones aircraft. The ridicule and badgering isn't necessary. If he doesn't want you there a simple no would suffice. What comes around goes around.
 
General,

You can apologize and make excuses for these guys all you want. It has nothing to do with what a Comair pilot 2-4 years ago did to some one. Anyone who would treat a fellow pilot like that is fushed up! I've been treated well and ignored, and once the guy went out of his way to be an a$$. But every one has decided in advance how they will treat a jumpseater, and then they come up with the reason why!
 

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