Delta Hiring

[ACL65PILOT]

The last four trips that I have been scheduled to fly with our LEC have been given to a reserve pilot. I know they are supposed to fly the line, but with overstaffing and the amount of pole smoking that Lee Moak requires our reps to perform keeps them to busy to fly JP

And I have seen them in the concourses schlepping their bags from gate to gate as well.

FWIW, there is a ton of stuff going on.

 

[JohnDoe]

FWIW, there is a ton of stuff going on.

Who cares how much is going on. It is what is going on that matters.

 

[JOPILOT]

And I have seen them in the concourses schlepping their bags from gate to gate as well.

FWIW, there is a ton of stuff going on.

Is there another way for them to get their blow up dolls from city to city?

LOL, Disagree if you will and I guess time will tell? Soon we will all see first hand how Lee Moak's leadership pans out.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

Is there another way for them to get their blow up dolls from city to city?

LOL, Disagree if you will and I guess time will tell? Soon we will all see first hand how Lee Moak's leadership pans out.

I can tell you that even though it is slow, the angst of the pilots is getting to the top.

 

[JOPILOT]

Angst? OK, the point is that DALPA and Delta Management seem to have become one on a lot of issues since I have been here, most importantly SCOPE...Thanks for your insight though. JP

 

[ACL65PILOT]

Angst? OK, the point is that DALPA and Delta Management seem to have become one on a lot of issues since I have been here, most importantly SCOPE...Thanks for your insight though. JP

Window for LEC reps opened today at 1000 edt. E-mails are starting to come out. Take a look, call or write the guys, and make an informed decision.

 

[michael707767]

Reps are line pilots that fly regular schedules just like you and me. Just wanted to clarify.

About two months ago, one of the ATL FO reps told me he had only flown about 85 hours in the previous year.

The reps are far, far, from being line pilots who fly a regular schedule.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

About two months ago, one of the ATL FO reps told me he had only flown about 85 hours in the previous year.

The reps are far, far, from being line pilots who fly a regular schedule.

Well, that is a little better than life on reserve. Man, I would miss flying a ton if I could only fly that little. Granted a few "big" things happened in the last year.

 

[michael707767]

Well, that is a little better than life on reserve. Man, I would miss flying a ton if I could only fly that little. Granted a few "big" things happened in the last year.

Not that many. It's disgusting the abuse of the system by the current MEC. Did you know there is an apartment in Atlanta for Lee Moak? Paid for by the DAL MEC? He should have to provide his own damm crash pad just like every other commuter.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

Not that many. It's disgusting the abuse of the system by the current MEC. Did you know there is an apartment in Atlanta for Lee Moak? Paid for by the DAL MEC? He should have to provide his own damm crash pad just like every other commuter.

I did not know that. WOW!

 

[andyd]

Well, If substantiated that is complete and total BS and should be stopped. I won't go as far as misappropriation of funds....but it certainly doesn't pass the smell test at a minimum.

 

[FBN0223]

Not that many. It's disgusting the abuse of the system by the current MEC. Did you know there is an apartment in Atlanta for Lee Moak? Paid for by the DAL MEC? He should have to provide his own damm crash pad just like every other commuter.

In my view, you can give him a nice condo, a decent car, and throw in a hot French maid if he would actually focus 100% of his efforts on what's best for Delta pilots.

Just spent part of the day non-revving coast to coast on Delta without ever flying with a Delta crew. I started on Compass and connected to Skywest. Thanks ALPA!!!

 

[Monster Buck]

On the subject of this thread....I was talking with a CP a couple of days ago and he said it like this about staffing...."I don't see us hiring in the short term but by no means furloughing. We are going to approach moving ac around over a total of 5-6 years. With as many different types we have and over 12000 pilots, there will be so many pilots in transition stages that our overages are a necessity"

So take it for what its worth.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

On the subject of this thread....I was talking with a CP a couple of days ago and he said it like this about staffing...."I don't see us hiring in the short term but by no means furloughing. We are going to approach moving ac around over a total of 5-6 years. With as many different types we have and over 12000 pilots, there will be so many pilots in transition stages that our overages are a necessity"

So take it for what its worth.

That is the way I see it. Maybe in late 2010 to 2011 we will hire. Come 2012 we will be hiring a lot just to keep up attrition. If the economy gets better than predicted it could be sooner. We just do not have enough time to justify a furlough.

 

[GogglesPisano]

When do NWA's retirements ramp up again?

 

[ACL65PILOT]

When do NWA's retirements ramp up again?

I figure 2012 when 65 hits. They go for about eight years than ours kick in for 10 years.

Go to the DALPA website, my page, and then look at the seniority calculator. It is close, but some assumptions are off. It will show you what to expect going forward.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

Not that many. It's disgusting the abuse of the system by the current MEC. Did you know there is an apartment in Atlanta for Lee Moak? Paid for by the DAL MEC? He should have to provide his own damm crash pad just like every other commuter.

I checked in to this earlier today. We actually have a set of apartments here. Not just one for Lee. We have been renting these for a long time, over many administrations.

If we NEED them, then we need to buy these places so we can make a return on investment. We are currently just paying rent from what I am told.

 

[asadonkey]

WTF! ...... over

 

[jonjuan]

I checked in to this earlier today. We actually have a set of apartments here. Not just one for Lee. We have been renting these for a long time, over many administrations.

If we NEED them, then we need to buy these places so we can make a return on investment. We are currently just paying rent from what I am told.

It seems as though you are less outraged now that there are a "set" of them over a long time.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

It seems as though you are less outraged now that there are a "set" of them over a long time.

No I was pointing out that this is not a "new" practice.