Delta Connection Academy...THOUGHTS????

[bobbysamd]

Real-world experience

what is the RIGHT way to get that real world experience. Please let me in on the acceptable path to greatness. (I thought I was in the real world, maybe this is not coffee Im drinking)

You acquire real-world experience primarily through working. You learn that things are done differently than what you learned in school. You acquire real-world experience step-by-step commensurate with your experience. E.g., you might begin by instructing. As you build time to qualify for single-pilot VFR 135, you do that. Then, at 1200 hours, IFR 135. You do that a while. Then, at 1500 hours, you get your ATP. The regionals might consider you at that point, though these days there are too many better-qualified pilots ahead of you. Etc. Some of the jobs you may have along the way might include night freight in decrepit equipment.

Once again, this is only one example of how to climb the ladder.

 

[standaman]

Flight Instructing is real world experience. Okay so maybe I am not going down to DH on the ILS everyday. So what. I know that if I needed to do it I could. Try teaching a student to do it and some day you could be challenged to your limits. All areas of flying wether it is Part 135 flying, flight instructing, or just flying around yourself offer different challenges and rewards. They also offer limitations as well. Most of my day is doing stalls and steeps turns in my local area. I only get to see other airports when I go on a cross country. The benefit of instruction is I have to know the regulations. I have to be able to teach anything. All of this is still practical real world experience. One way of building time is not any better than the other.

 

[huncowboy]

Get out there and fly some 135 Baron night cargo for a thousand hours then give me a call. If you survive the experience, you will become an "experienced" pilot of value. Otherwise, you are nothing more than a seat warmer.

Best of luck in your aviation career.

and then you're going to tell me to go out and get some 1000h jet time and then give you a call... you are getting that captain pay for something

Plz do not put Gulfstream next to Comair. Thx.

 

[Four02Driver]

look thats all I'm saying is that one thing that needs to be remembered is when someone comes out of an acadamey straight to the right seat of an RJ etc. at 500 hrs some are hanging on to the tail cone, and thats not good.

Heres my experience I went from CFI to the left seat at the regional I work for Single Pilot IFR Scheduled with pax. The first time I saw 1800 rvr it scared the crap out of me and I'm a local boy.

Now I'm a senoir training dept capt and the last thing we want to be doing is teaching someone what to do while barreling down at the earth at 3 miles a minute. Cause in the real world approaches are not done at 90 kts more like 140 to 170

So if I offended any of you academey guys to bad cause you'd never pass my interview sim ride. (and I dont give emergencies on the ride)

 

[The_Russian]

What???

No emergencies?!? Sounds like you give a boring sim ride.

 

[The_Russian]

More from the Kremlin

Originally posted by huncowboy:

Plz do not put Gulfstream next to Comair. Thx.

Why? We fly the same way Comair does. Maybe slightly different profiles.

However, he is incorrect that Comair is a training airline. GIA is a training airline for a small percentage of the F/O's that are in the program.

Originally posted by Four02Driver:

A place like DCA does NOT give you what you need to take any aircraft down to mins when other peoples lives are at stake.

I completely agree with you on that one!!! DCA is a joke when it comes to real world experience. DCA trains their pilots to believe that there is only one way to fly: theirs. Those guys have a hard time outside their element. When I was instructing at GIA I had a few DCA CFIs under me that wouldn't leave DCA procedures and learn ours. It took us months to standardize them. One of them actually told me that students didn't need to learn slips to landing because "they will never have to do it in the airlines". Give me a frickin break!

Honestly, like I've always said:

It doesn't matter where you learn to fly. As long as you do it well and you know your sh!t. Some pilots from DCA will be eceptional. Some will be a discrace to the industry. Same goes with FSI, GIA, ERAU, and the list goes on. It also doesn't matter how many hours you have. A lot of people have it in their heads that a full logbook is a right of passage or a show of skill. It is simply not true.

 

[BoDEAN]

I am friends with the A. Chief Flight Instructor down in FL, and he loves it.

 

[elantra2002]

You all sound like a bunch of whiner's looking for the perfect world.

Get a clue the real world is full of things we all don't like.

It seems like everyone is busy wasting their energy and trying to find fault with everything to distract from their own faults.

Suck it up, grow up and do what any adult would do. Get a back bone and understand life is not a little happy feel good circle. You actually have to work for what you get and not expect to be coddled like a little baby with a full diaper.

 

[Four02Driver]

Sounds like you cant find a job.


Oh and by the way 1 in 5 pass my sim ride

 

[huncowboy]

Re: More from the Kremlin

Originally posted by The_Russian
Originally posted by huncowboy:
Why? We fly the same way Comair does. Maybe slightly different profiles.


I should have written Gulfstream Academy vs. DCA. But you already knew that. And if you don't know the difference, than there is nothing to talk about anyways.


One of them actually told me that students didn't need to learn slips to landing because "they will never have to do it in the airlines". Give me a frickin break!


and you did believe it right? give papa a break plz

thanks

zzz ZZZ zzz ZZZ

 

[elantra2002]

Your right I can't find a Job.

I have a career big diff.

 

[standaman]

And the war of words continues. Nobody is right and nobody is wrong. Experience versus connections. Cheap versus expensive. Good vs Bad. All things I know in this world have benefits and drawbacks. The path you decide to take will determine your fate. The question is what works for you. All companies have problems. To think otherwise is criminal.

 

[BellyFlyer]

Four02,

What regional do you work for? Cape Air? How 's life there? Are you guys growing? What sim do you use for the interview?

Not looking for a job; just curious.

 

[Four02Driver]

yep,
49 c-402's
3 atr 42's
igate elite

Four on 3 off I can pick my schedule and the best part is I'm home in my own bed every night!

 

[KingAirKiddo]

yep,
49 c-402's
3 atr 42's
igate elite

Four on 3 off I can pick my schedule and the best part is I'm home in my own bed every night!

Cape always looked like it would be a fun place to work (seriously). There's something to be said for New England in the summer and the Islands in the winter!

Just out of curiosity, what's the pay like over there?

KAK