Delta Connection Academy...THOUGHTS????

[cobraman]

Momike, IF you really are a student, you do realize they take what instructors say about students into account when it comes to working here. That is if your not really *****. I find it strange that ***** magically disappeared off the board over the last 2 weeks.
WELCOME BACK!!!! I've missed your banter.

 

[Sailpilot]

Ha! You got edited AGAIN by a mod for using names. Thank you Mr. Longhorn! I watched this entire debacle between you, bufettk, mnixon, TRG and the rest. Don't you DCA homies ever LEARN? I hope you get slammed to the penalty box for good!

I have never seen someone talk so much without saying anything?

 

[SBD]

Momike or whatever your name is, cut the B.S. out. I personally know Jagboy69 and he is an excellent instructor. I've flown with some of his students and they said he was a complete professional. That guy has a great attitude towards students and always puts them first.

 

[TRGFlyer2006]

Momike or whatever your name is, cut the B.S. out. I personally know Jagboy69 and he is an excellent instructor. I've flown with some of his students and they said he was a complete professional. That guy has a great attitude towards students and always puts them first.

I could not agree with you more. I also know him personally as well and think that he is one of the most professional and exemplary instructors that “said” school has to offer. Some people on this forum think Jagboy and I are the same person, but that is not the case at all. In case there is any wonder, I'm in a state that rimes with ass. As for Jag.... Somewhere south!! Hope everyone can figure it out!!!!


As for you momike(F'ing MO-MO): You are obviously some angry CFII wanna be that just can't cut it. Where do you get off? I've seen your other posts.....Racially, ethnically and sexually motivated. Oh, and I almost forgot, you think you're a movie critique. Cannon ball, cannon ball coming!!!!

 

[mnixon]

Have you guys noticed that since old boy got banned it got real quiet. Let's let this thread die.

 

[mnixon]

Why is it that I was the last one to post on this article and amazingly on the main page says that the last post was yesterday? Mod's care to stop screwing around with this thread?

 

[craftkeeper2001]

Bull crap

Originally posted by huncowboy:



Why? We fly the same way Comair does. Maybe slightly different profiles.

However, he is incorrect that Comair is a training airline. GIA is a training airline for a small percentage of the F/O's that are in the program.

Originally posted by Four02Driver:



I completely agree with you on that one!!! DCA is a joke when it comes to real world experience. DCA trains their pilots to believe that there is only one way to fly: theirs. Those guys have a hard time outside their element. When I was instructing at GIA I had a few DCA CFIs under me that wouldn't leave DCA procedures and learn ours. It took us months to standardize them. One of them actually told me that students didn't need to learn slips to landing because "they will never have to do it in the airlines". Give me a frickin break!

Honestly, like I've always said:

It doesn't matter where you learn to fly. As long as you do it well and you know your sh!t. Some pilots from DCA will be eceptional. Some will be a discrace to the industry. Same goes with FSI, GIA, ERAU, and the list goes on. It also doesn't matter how many hours you have. A lot of people have it in their heads that a full logbook is a right of passage or a show of skill. It is simply not true.

This statment isnt true as well , these are taught and are part of the program you lame ass

 

[Metro752]

This statment isnt true as well , these are taught and are part of the program you lame ass

you're 6 months behind

 

[ucf_motorcycle]

Wow DCA hasn't gone out of business yet?

Keybank Loan...............$100k
Time Spent @ DCA.........1.5 years
Susan Burrell's Mercedes..$80K
Bar Tabs .......................$5k
First Instructing job after
not getting hired at DCA....$20 per hr
AVG Regional salary........maybe $20K (might be pushing it)

$625.86 Loan payment per month for the next 20 years of my life...............PRICELESS

Do not go to DCA way too expensive. I wish I had done my homework on went a cheaper route. Anyone off the street can get the same interviews. Good training, met a alot of friends half have been furloughed already. Had alot of good times. Place seems to be going downhill every year.

I don't know what she was driving when you were there maybe she toned down, but that AMG Mercedes she had when I was there was easy over 100K. In case anyone was interested where the money goes it goes into the pockets of the admissions guys (ie salesman), clever marketing, and the guys with the offices.

I'm going to get on a soap box and vent again:
Blowing my money there pisses me off to this day; 4 years later flying and for the USAF, I still send a $500 a month payment to Key Bank. I don't know what they do now but I was straight lied to about the costs and time involved. I was shown an average cost chart which was completely flawed. Once I got it figured out through pulling teeth with my instructors how much the real average cost is, I got out. It cost me about 46K through single commercial. Flying garbage planes that I would be scared to fly these days.
This had nothing to do with lack of skills and most anyone one who has flown with me military and civilian can honestly say that I am a good stick. Although that was what DCA told me when I inquired as to why my fees were way high. The only guys who came close to the average costs and this was very few people. Were those who were #1 good pilots and #2 had instructors who made sure to cut corners so they didn't get raped by the costs. I had this during my instrument phase and mad it under average costs but got raped during private and comm. After not flying a plane for 8 months a was able to get my Multi comm in 7 hours including the FAA ride. So my skills were not the issue in my opinion.
Off soap box back to trying to forget that POS place.

In case anyone is still up for suing this place I'm still for it but I will not be the one organizing. I don't have the time or the legal connections.

 

[jim718181]

When I left the latest line of crap management was throwing out there was anyone who tried to sue wouldnt ever get a job at the regionals. This place truly is a joke.

 

[TRGFlyer2006]

I can't believe this thread is still alive! Sweet

 

[TRGFlyer2006]

This statment isnt true as well , these are taught and are part of the program you lame ass

I assume you are talking about the slips...

The statement wasn't that DCA doesn't teach slips. It is foolish to assume that a primarily 141 school would just flat out omit the maneuver or down play the importance of it. The statement was, in my opinion, that the DCA instructor didn't see the value in teaching slips to someone who solely has the intent of going to the airlines. (From what I'm told BTW...is the goal of ALL attending GIA.) We all know that DCA is no different than any other flight school. Other than being out to just make money they are NOT primarily training F/O's, but just awarding single pilot ratings.

Just curious... What are your experiences with the school?

 

[craftkeeper2001]

This is stupid. Ever look at PTS from the FAA . The school is regulated very strictly by the Faa and visit on a regular basis both for pilot standards and the maintenance side . The school works with the Orlando Flight standards to bring about better ways to regulate and to help pilots who have made mistakes . My thoughts on the comparison to schools you made the choice and seems your blaming your faults and lack of accomplishments on the school because many pilots come from this school and go on to become airline pilots. The biggest changes are yet to come to be the best and have the most advanced fleet of aircraft , so keep your eyes on the academy while you fly your pipeline or that 172 for another flight school . So as I SLIP my way out of this thread .

 

[ftld81]

I go to the DCA in south florida, and I love it. It's a much smaller school than the one in sanford, which makes it more personable. It's also associated with the community college, and you get an associates in science while you're training.
I'm currently working on my Instrument rating and I'm up for my checkride..since ive been there...(8 months)...about 6 instructors got hired by chataqua or sky west...
I really like the school, and I've learned a lot.

 

[JRSLim]

Why not go to MAPD?

As a current instructor for MAPD, I recommend it highly. What Bobby S said about it being a disciplined program is true. The program produces quality pilots while always keeping the students best interests in mind. The program works and in my 16 months here I have seen the results of hundreds of satisfied graduates - from both ab initio and PACE.
I don't want to hijack this thread, but if you may be interested feel free to contact me, and I will be happy to talk to you about it - from an inside point of view.

 

[CX880]

As a current instructor for MAPD, I recommend it highly. What Bobby S said about it being a disciplined program is true. The program produces quality pilots while always keeping the students best interests in mind. The program works and in my 16 months here I have seen the results of hundreds of satisfied graduates - from both ab initio and PACE.
I don't want to hijack this thread, but if you may be interested feel free to contact me, and I will be happy to talk to you about it - from an inside point of view.

yea you forgot to mention that you'll end up at MESA after the program..

 

[JRSLim]

yea you forgot to mention that you'll end up at MESA after the program..

Yep - exactly, but for someone with 300 hours, they are pretty happy to be working for Mesa - gaining turbine time with which they can later move on with.

 

[CX880]

Yep - exactly, but for someone with 300 hours, they are pretty happy to be working for Mesa - gaining turbine time with which they can later move on with.

Yea right, I'd rather set my own schedule, wake up whenever I want, make 40 per hour as a CFI. Sure beats $20 per hour working 14 hours per day with 8 days off per month, turbine or no turbine. MAPD grads have to be FOs for a long time anyways rendering that turbine experience useless. Do mapd grads even have enough pic to get the ATP?

 

[JRSLim]

Yea right, I'd rather set my own schedule, wake up whenever I want, make 40 per hour as a CFI. Sure beats $20 per hour working 14 hours per day with 8 days off per month, turbine or no turbine. MAPD grads have to be FOs for a long time anyways rendering that turbine experience useless. Do mapd grads even have enough pic to get the ATP?

No, they don't (have enough PIC for ATP) - when they graduate after 19 months. They are trained to be first officers for the airline - the ATP isn't an issue at that point.
Everybody has their own path. What the program does is take relatively low time/no time pilots, and give them the training necessary to be an asset as a first officer. I have flown with many 1000+ hour pilots outside the program who would not be as well suited for a FO position as MAPD grads. Sure they have to be FOs for a while, but pretty much everyone does. How many years does the $40/hr CFI have to work to get the minimums to be hired for the same job? The MAPD program gets you to interview standards in 19 months.
The reality is turbine time is turbine time- and is rarely 'useless' unless your career goal involves being a bush pilot in Alaska.
MAPD isn't just another quickie flight school that takes your money up front and closes down the next week. We are the training academy for the airline. Students still have to meet the standards, and still have to pass the interview, but they are interviewing for a job they have been specifically trained for - the first thing that happens is they get a CFM - modelled after the MESA CFMs. They do flows and checklists from day one. Line pilots request MAPD grads because they know the quality of the person they are flying with. Thats the difference between finding your own route as a CFI and going through the program - you get there faster, and your skills are specific to the job.

Thanks giving me the chance to answer your questions.

 

[bknight_c50]

Line pilots request MAPD grads because they know the quality of the person they are flying with.

I'm gonna have to disagree with that sentence of your post. I'm a line pilot, and I fly with a lot of other line pilots. For one, we never request a specific person to fly with, because we can't...whoever shows up that morning to start the trip is who you're flying with, like it or not.

The general opinion from the captains I fly with is that a new hire is a new hire...No real differences between them, they're all kinda green, and the captain has to be on his toes and verify everything regardless of the new hire's background as far as where they got their licenses. No one school better than the other, and no certain route better than the other. They're inexperienced, and to some varying degree, they're behind the airplane a little. Not that this is bad...it's gonna take awhile for anyone to catch up in a new airplane...The point of this all is that if a line pilot could "request" any type of pilot to fly with, they're going to request an FO that's been at the company for a year or two that's up up speed with everything, and has some experience under their belt to be able to help make decisions with knowledge that you can really only get by doing the job. That said, you gotta start somewhere, and almost everyone on the regional and majors board was once a green new hire, that made captains suck on the seat cushions every now and then. Regardless of your school, when you're a newhire you're going to make some captains nervous...I know I did.

I'm not bashing your post or your school, but that line about pilots requesting MAPD grads just kinda sounds like what the admissions people feed you when they're trying to get you to sign on the dotted line. Nothing wrong with that...it's their job, but that's one of the many not quite 100% accurate things that students are told when they check out a school with the hope that the students will believe them.