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[Flechas]

I am at a regional that doesn't pay for training and it wasn't bad at all. Management has to cut cost somewhere so we all have to be team players. Times are changing and im in front of the power curve.

Yeah, you are ahead of the curve, I bet you were the first to volunteer when management said "ooops I drop my keys, can you pick em up for me please, and while you are at it....."

 

[cforst513]

i seriously hope that 8HRRULE is just baiting you, flech, or else I think he takes the cake for being the biggest douche on flightinfo.com. he even beats Training!!! i think he's just the DCA guy's buddy that signed up to mess with you, you old-school maniac. you're too old-school, flech!!! who trains in real airplanes and actually pays for it?! certainly not I. sure, I had to pay for Microsoft Flight Simulator 2002, but I'm a much more capable pilot than you are b/c i did the ENTIRE Rod Machado flight school on MFS2002. get with the times, man!

 

[Flechas]

Hahaha you are probably right, he must be flaming, the sad thing is that there are a lot of people going to GIA these days, and the chances that some of them are here trying to justify their stupidity is very high!

 

[8HRRULE]

Hahaha you are probably right, he must be flaming, the sad thing is that there are a lot of people going to GIA these days, and the chances that some of them are here trying to justify their stupidity is very high!

This is not flame. Dude, Let it go. You cant change the fact that there will always be pilots coming from places from GIA. Sooner or later, all 121 pilots will have this type of background. It's inevitable. PFT is the wave of the future.

 

[wmuflyguy]

I had a student the other day who went and visited Gulfstream Academy. The funny thing is that they paid to fly him down there and paid for his hotel. They must really want his money.

Anyways, he said he talked to a few of the pilots and they said DON'T DO IT!!!

Now i wasn't there and dont know if the pilots were FO's or CA's, but that strikes me as funny.

 

[8HRRULE]

I had a student the other day who went and visited Gulfstream Academy. The funny thing is that they paid to fly him down there and paid for his hotel. They must really want his money.

Anyways, he said he talked to a few of the pilots and they said DON'T DO IT!!!

Now i wasn't there and dont know if the pilots were FO's or CA's, but that strikes me as funny.

I would like to know who they were. That is the opposite attitude of every GIA Pilot that I met. They are happy that they have been afforded an opportunity that most pilots dont get. A chance to fly a jet at 400 hrs. You tell me where else that happens. You would do it if you could.

 

[urflyingme?!]

It happens at MAPD with no stigma.

 

[Sticky]

Jesus! Is this guy for real!?!? The entire thread has me laughing and almost pi$$ing myself because of this dumb@ss. You know, I've never flown a jet or worn a uniform, and thats fine with me. Some day, these guys will grow up and learn that there is more to life then PIC hours and jets. The thought of spending my prime years (20-30) making 25K and being gone 18 days a month makes me sick. Haven't these guys crunched the numbers and seen how important it is to start saving and investing early on? Is a freakin' uniform really that important?

 

[8HRRULE]

Jesus! Is this guy for real!?!? The entire thread has me laughing and almost pi$$ing myself because of this dumb@ss. You know, I've never flown a jet or worn a uniform, and thats fine with me. Some day, these guys will grow up and learn that there is more to life then PIC hours and jets. The thought of spending my prime years (20-30) making 25K and being gone 18 days a month makes me sick. Haven't these guys crunched the numbers and seen how important it is to start saving and investing early on? Is a freakin' uniform really that important?

Its only a shortcut to the High Life.

 

[Sticky]

the "high life"? What are you talking about? You must have some wet dream about being a big airline captain with a brass ring. You know that's all bull$hit, right? You'd better be real careful, pal. You "ain't" as smart as you think you are.

 

[8HRRULE]

the "high life"? What are you talking about? You must have some wet dream about being a big airline captain with a brass ring. You know that's all bull$hit, right? You'd better be real careful, pal. You "ain't" as smart as you think you are.

When you get yourself a REAL JOB, then you can lecture me with your crap.

 

[Sticky]

What makes a flying job real? Is it determined by aircraft size? Pay? Location? FO vs. CAP? Do you have a real job? Most would think you don't. Do you remeber the fellow who is retiring from a major couple pages back? He HAS the job you want, and you still didn't take his lecture. Simple fact is you're an idiot.

 

[flx757]

Sticky,

I would just ignore him. Earlier, someone WITH a REAL JOB did lecture him, and he didn't want to hear any of that, either. Told him he "wouldn't make it" if he were starting out today. I had to laugh at that one. I thought I had seen the ultimate in stupidity on this board, but there's a new one every day.

So, why waste your time with this loser? He's just a joke, but it is good entertainment.

 

[Sticky]

Well, good point. Maybe I just can't let a j@ck@ss go. You're right though, this guy does take the cake, huh?

 

[The_Russian]

It happens at MAPD with no stigma.

And why is that? Why don't you crush on these guys for "cutting corners" and "lowering the bar". That is worse than GAA in every way. Lower experienced pilots and the money goes to the airline. It is flat out "buy a job". And it's flat out dangerous. The GAA FO program provides students with twice the training and twice the total time. Also students recieve a good progression.

GAA-

Single- 200hrs- (including 30 sim) (Old 141 program)
Multi- 50hours- (including 20 sim) (Old 141 program)
Mutli Turbine Sim- 60 hours (30 F-242 1900C, 30 B1900D Level D)
Multi Turbine- 250 hours
Twin Jet Sim - whatever PCL training consists of
Twin Jet employment

MAPD

250 hous upon entry to program
B58 - 30 hours (20 in the sim)
JET FTD 40 hours fake jet time
Jet employment - much to early

Now, I am not saying that GAA students are the best pilots in the world. As an instuctor I know the most competent pilots are intructors. However, looking at the numbers, a GAA student is more qualified than a PACE student to occupy a CRJ.

 

[propsarebest]

MANWHORES!

GET A FRIGGIN LIFE AND GET OFF OF DADDY'S TEET

 

[wmuflyguy]

You would do it if you could.

I could have and didn't. I have 2 friends there, that is their choice, and i'm still friends with them. I have my own way to get a job.

 

[wheelsup]

That is worse than GAA in every way. Lower experienced pilots and the money goes to the airline. It is flat out "buy a job".

MAPD

250 hous upon entry to program
B58 - 30 hours (20 in the sim)
JET FTD 40 hours fake jet time
Jet employment - much to early

You're referring to the PACE program. Remember, there's two programs - the ab-initio program is coming in with zero time, and the PACE guys are basically buying an interview slot at Mesa Airlines (which is granted to the ab-initio guys once they finish the program).

It is not "buy a job", as the new-hire don't pay Mesa Airlines for their new-hire training or to sit in that seat (once they get to the airline). IMO, Gulfstream people are far worse, as they are paying to be on the aircraft while passengers are there. I do agree that's it shady, however, and I caution people from doing it (not the ab-initio, the PACE). Also, remember, if you have 1000/100 you can apply/interview/get hired as MAG. You don't have to pay a cent. Does gulfstream hire f/o's off the street?

What if pinnacle suddenly fired all the f/o's and required all new-hires to write a $15,000 check in order to get the privledge of working there, no matter how much total time, multi, turbine, you name it they had. If you had the $15k, you'd get the job. If you didn't (and had morals) you wouldn't. How exactly is that fair to other fellow pilots? It's exactly what Gulfstream does...

The Bonanza's rent for about $120/hr (Baron's around $225). They're all '91 and newer (save one baron, its an '85) - how much $$ do you really think MAG sees from this operation? It can't be much...I believe the program is more to furnish pilots willing to work for Mesa than anything else.

~wheelsup

 

[8HRRULE]

What if pinnacle suddenly fired all the f/o's and required all new-hires to write a $15,000 check in order to get the privledge of working there, no matter how much total time, multi, turbine, you name it they had. If you had the $15k, you'd get the job. If you didn't (and had morals) you wouldn't. How exactly is that fair to other fellow pilots? It's exactly what Gulfstream does...


~wheelsup

Like it or not, this is the wave of the future. MAG is no better. How could you possible defend MAG? How do you sleep at night?

 

[LegacyIIDriver]

LOL!!! That guy is famous.

To tell you how old that is.....

One of the guys in that picture was my Com ASEL ground school instructor. He taught us right after he graduated. That was back in 2000! You think they could get a new picture. A few of those guys never made it to the airline.

THAT is frickin' hilarious! If I were him I would SUE Comair for defamation or something! Check Airman...........I think not.

Hahahahah. Who is that dude? I need to make him my avatar.

 

[Kream926]

Listen Up Buddy, Dont sit here and lecture me on what it takes to make it to the MAJORS. I know what it takes. It's just too bad that you cant see how this industry really works.

you cant get your FAMILY FUNDS to bribe your way to the majors dude. you need to seriously think before you post. in every single thread that you have posted everyone is against you. i may not know how the idustry works but i do know that money or how you got your TRAINING will not make a difrence. i will have fun CFI'ing, then ill have fun flying a twin solo with some cargo in it then ill be ready for the regionals. to me that is the most honest way to earn not only experiene but also respect from fellow PILOTS, something that you will never get from anyone.


kream

 

[737 Pylt]

Like it or not, this is the wave of the future. MAG is no better. How could you possible defend MAG? How do you sleep at night?

How do you talk?? Are you truly that stupid??
I guess so!
737

 

[cforst513]

How do you talk?? Are you truly that stupid??
I guess so!
737

ZING!!!!

I've turned to ignoring this DCA boob. Makes my days easier.

 

[EMB170Pilot]

I was THAT GUY who told my student not to go to GIA while down in FLL flying 402s working my butt off. I told him that yes times were tough but if you go to GIA and "pay for training" then you will be looked down upon. It will hurt you not help you.


He didnt take the job

 

[Palerider957]

The sad fact is that PFT really doesn't adversely affect an indivuduals career potential. It actually does have the result of boosting a PFT'er well past the hard working CFI, or the freight dog.


Let's face it, once someone hits the line, no one really cares where they came from as long as they can fly, know their job, and have a good attitude.

If during interviews, PFT'ers were left behind, we might see a trend away from the likes of GIA, MAPD, TAB Express, etc. Until then PFT will continue to thrive.

 

[LegacyIIDriver]

Yeah well, one of my classmates did the GIA thing instead of the CFI route. He was flying jets while the rest of us were still flying Seminoles and Cougars. He spent about 3K less to go to GIA than we did to do it the "Comair" way. He was a jet Captain two years ahead of me and is probably going to reap a ton more in total career earnings as a result.

Do what works for you. Bottom line.

 

[Tar Heel]

I would not worry about Tab Express. They never got their airline off the ground. And monday they announced they were bankrupt and had no money to pay employees!

 

[EMB170Pilot]

I would not worry about Tab Express. They never got their airline off the ground. And monday they announced they were bankrupt and had no money to pay employees!

Anyone who fell for that scam should really get their a$$ kicked

 

[Way2Broke]

I can't believe "The Delta Connection Academy" is even still around. What a scam!!! The management are all pricks! How can the president of the school drive a new Corvette, and still sleep at night paying instructors 10.00 an hour? What are they charging per hour for instruction these days, 60.00 an hour? What are they renting 152s for, 110??? What a ripp off. This place just chapps my ass! Guaranteed job interview? haha Get mins and send out resumes, thats also a guaranteed job interview! DO NOT GO TO COMAIR AVIATION ACADEMY, OR WHATEVER THEY CALL IT THESE DAYS! ok.... getting off the soap box now

 

[ILSJUNKIE]

I was THAT GUY who told my student not to go to GIA while down in FLL flying 402s working my butt off. I told him that yes times were tough but if you go to GIA and "pay for training" then you will be looked down upon. It will hurt you not help you.


He didnt take the job

Your kidding right? You actually sound proud of your background.