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[Flechas]

I am at a regional that doesn't pay for training and it wasn't bad at all. Management has to cut cost somewhere so we all have to be team players. Times are changing and im in front of the power curve.

Yeah, you are ahead of the curve, I bet you were the first to volunteer when management said "ooops I drop my keys, can you pick em up for me please, and while you are at it....."

 

[cforst513]

i seriously hope that 8HRRULE is just baiting you, flech, or else I think he takes the cake for being the biggest douche on flightinfo.com. he even beats Training!!! i think he's just the DCA guy's buddy that signed up to mess with you, you old-school maniac. you're too old-school, flech!!! who trains in real airplanes and actually pays for it?! certainly not I. sure, I had to pay for Microsoft Flight Simulator 2002, but I'm a much more capable pilot than you are b/c i did the ENTIRE Rod Machado flight school on MFS2002. get with the times, man!

 

[Flechas]

Hahaha you are probably right, he must be flaming, the sad thing is that there are a lot of people going to GIA these days, and the chances that some of them are here trying to justify their stupidity is very high!

 

[8HRRULE]

Hahaha you are probably right, he must be flaming, the sad thing is that there are a lot of people going to GIA these days, and the chances that some of them are here trying to justify their stupidity is very high!

This is not flame. Dude, Let it go. You cant change the fact that there will always be pilots coming from places from GIA. Sooner or later, all 121 pilots will have this type of background. It's inevitable. PFT is the wave of the future.

 

[wmuflyguy]

I had a student the other day who went and visited Gulfstream Academy. The funny thing is that they paid to fly him down there and paid for his hotel. They must really want his money.

Anyways, he said he talked to a few of the pilots and they said DON'T DO IT!!!

Now i wasn't there and dont know if the pilots were FO's or CA's, but that strikes me as funny.

 

[8HRRULE]

I had a student the other day who went and visited Gulfstream Academy. The funny thing is that they paid to fly him down there and paid for his hotel. They must really want his money.

Anyways, he said he talked to a few of the pilots and they said DON'T DO IT!!!

Now i wasn't there and dont know if the pilots were FO's or CA's, but that strikes me as funny.

I would like to know who they were. That is the opposite attitude of every GIA Pilot that I met. They are happy that they have been afforded an opportunity that most pilots dont get. A chance to fly a jet at 400 hrs. You tell me where else that happens. You would do it if you could.

 

[urflyingme?!]

It happens at MAPD with no stigma.

 

[Sticky]

Jesus! Is this guy for real!?!? The entire thread has me laughing and almost pi$$ing myself because of this dumb@ss. You know, I've never flown a jet or worn a uniform, and thats fine with me. Some day, these guys will grow up and learn that there is more to life then PIC hours and jets. The thought of spending my prime years (20-30) making 25K and being gone 18 days a month makes me sick. Haven't these guys crunched the numbers and seen how important it is to start saving and investing early on? Is a freakin' uniform really that important?

 

[8HRRULE]

Jesus! Is this guy for real!?!? The entire thread has me laughing and almost pi$$ing myself because of this dumb@ss. You know, I've never flown a jet or worn a uniform, and thats fine with me. Some day, these guys will grow up and learn that there is more to life then PIC hours and jets. The thought of spending my prime years (20-30) making 25K and being gone 18 days a month makes me sick. Haven't these guys crunched the numbers and seen how important it is to start saving and investing early on? Is a freakin' uniform really that important?

Its only a shortcut to the High Life.

 

[Sticky]

the "high life"? What are you talking about? You must have some wet dream about being a big airline captain with a brass ring. You know that's all bull$hit, right? You'd better be real careful, pal. You "ain't" as smart as you think you are.

 

[8HRRULE]

the "high life"? What are you talking about? You must have some wet dream about being a big airline captain with a brass ring. You know that's all bull$hit, right? You'd better be real careful, pal. You "ain't" as smart as you think you are.

When you get yourself a REAL JOB, then you can lecture me with your crap.

 

[Sticky]

What makes a flying job real? Is it determined by aircraft size? Pay? Location? FO vs. CAP? Do you have a real job? Most would think you don't. Do you remeber the fellow who is retiring from a major couple pages back? He HAS the job you want, and you still didn't take his lecture. Simple fact is you're an idiot.

 

[flx757]

Sticky,

I would just ignore him. Earlier, someone WITH a REAL JOB did lecture him, and he didn't want to hear any of that, either. Told him he "wouldn't make it" if he were starting out today. I had to laugh at that one. I thought I had seen the ultimate in stupidity on this board, but there's a new one every day.

So, why waste your time with this loser? He's just a joke, but it is good entertainment.

 

[Sticky]

Well, good point. Maybe I just can't let a j@ck@ss go. You're right though, this guy does take the cake, huh?

 

[The_Russian]

It happens at MAPD with no stigma.

And why is that? Why don't you crush on these guys for "cutting corners" and "lowering the bar". That is worse than GAA in every way. Lower experienced pilots and the money goes to the airline. It is flat out "buy a job". And it's flat out dangerous. The GAA FO program provides students with twice the training and twice the total time. Also students recieve a good progression.

GAA-

Single- 200hrs- (including 30 sim) (Old 141 program)
Multi- 50hours- (including 20 sim) (Old 141 program)
Mutli Turbine Sim- 60 hours (30 F-242 1900C, 30 B1900D Level D)
Multi Turbine- 250 hours
Twin Jet Sim - whatever PCL training consists of
Twin Jet employment

MAPD

250 hous upon entry to program
B58 - 30 hours (20 in the sim)
JET FTD 40 hours fake jet time
Jet employment - much to early

Now, I am not saying that GAA students are the best pilots in the world. As an instuctor I know the most competent pilots are intructors. However, looking at the numbers, a GAA student is more qualified than a PACE student to occupy a CRJ.

 

[propsarebest]

MANWHORES!

GET A FRIGGIN LIFE AND GET OFF OF DADDY'S TEET

 

[wmuflyguy]

You would do it if you could.

I could have and didn't. I have 2 friends there, that is their choice, and i'm still friends with them. I have my own way to get a job.

 

[wheelsup]

That is worse than GAA in every way. Lower experienced pilots and the money goes to the airline. It is flat out "buy a job".

MAPD

250 hous upon entry to program
B58 - 30 hours (20 in the sim)
JET FTD 40 hours fake jet time
Jet employment - much to early

You're referring to the PACE program. Remember, there's two programs - the ab-initio program is coming in with zero time, and the PACE guys are basically buying an interview slot at Mesa Airlines (which is granted to the ab-initio guys once they finish the program).

It is not "buy a job", as the new-hire don't pay Mesa Airlines for their new-hire training or to sit in that seat (once they get to the airline). IMO, Gulfstream people are far worse, as they are paying to be on the aircraft while passengers are there. I do agree that's it shady, however, and I caution people from doing it (not the ab-initio, the PACE). Also, remember, if you have 1000/100 you can apply/interview/get hired as MAG. You don't have to pay a cent. Does gulfstream hire f/o's off the street?

What if pinnacle suddenly fired all the f/o's and required all new-hires to write a $15,000 check in order to get the privledge of working there, no matter how much total time, multi, turbine, you name it they had. If you had the $15k, you'd get the job. If you didn't (and had morals) you wouldn't. How exactly is that fair to other fellow pilots? It's exactly what Gulfstream does...

The Bonanza's rent for about $120/hr (Baron's around $225). They're all '91 and newer (save one baron, its an '85) - how much $$ do you really think MAG sees from this operation? It can't be much...I believe the program is more to furnish pilots willing to work for Mesa than anything else.

~wheelsup

 

[8HRRULE]

What if pinnacle suddenly fired all the f/o's and required all new-hires to write a $15,000 check in order to get the privledge of working there, no matter how much total time, multi, turbine, you name it they had. If you had the $15k, you'd get the job. If you didn't (and had morals) you wouldn't. How exactly is that fair to other fellow pilots? It's exactly what Gulfstream does...


~wheelsup

Like it or not, this is the wave of the future. MAG is no better. How could you possible defend MAG? How do you sleep at night?

 

[LegacyIIDriver]

LOL!!! That guy is famous.

To tell you how old that is.....

One of the guys in that picture was my Com ASEL ground school instructor. He taught us right after he graduated. That was back in 2000! You think they could get a new picture. A few of those guys never made it to the airline.

THAT is frickin' hilarious! If I were him I would SUE Comair for defamation or something! Check Airman...........I think not.

Hahahahah. Who is that dude? I need to make him my avatar.