Delta Connection Academy comes through again, providing jobs no other school can!!

[Kream926]

Listen Up Buddy, Dont sit here and lecture me on what it takes to make it to the MAJORS. I know what it takes. It's just too bad that you cant see how this industry really works.

you cant get your FAMILY FUNDS to bribe your way to the majors dude. you need to seriously think before you post. in every single thread that you have posted everyone is against you. i may not know how the idustry works but i do know that money or how you got your TRAINING will not make a difrence. i will have fun CFI'ing, then ill have fun flying a twin solo with some cargo in it then ill be ready for the regionals. to me that is the most honest way to earn not only experiene but also respect from fellow PILOTS, something that you will never get from anyone.


kream

 

[737 Pylt]

Like it or not, this is the wave of the future. MAG is no better. How could you possible defend MAG? How do you sleep at night?

How do you talk?? Are you truly that stupid??
I guess so!
737

 

[cforst513]

How do you talk?? Are you truly that stupid??
I guess so!
737

ZING!!!!

I've turned to ignoring this DCA boob. Makes my days easier.

 

[EMB170Pilot]

I was THAT GUY who told my student not to go to GIA while down in FLL flying 402s working my butt off. I told him that yes times were tough but if you go to GIA and "pay for training" then you will be looked down upon. It will hurt you not help you.


He didnt take the job

 

[Palerider957]

The sad fact is that PFT really doesn't adversely affect an indivuduals career potential. It actually does have the result of boosting a PFT'er well past the hard working CFI, or the freight dog.


Let's face it, once someone hits the line, no one really cares where they came from as long as they can fly, know their job, and have a good attitude.

If during interviews, PFT'ers were left behind, we might see a trend away from the likes of GIA, MAPD, TAB Express, etc. Until then PFT will continue to thrive.

 

[LegacyIIDriver]

Yeah well, one of my classmates did the GIA thing instead of the CFI route. He was flying jets while the rest of us were still flying Seminoles and Cougars. He spent about 3K less to go to GIA than we did to do it the "Comair" way. He was a jet Captain two years ahead of me and is probably going to reap a ton more in total career earnings as a result.

Do what works for you. Bottom line.

 

[Tar Heel]

I would not worry about Tab Express. They never got their airline off the ground. And monday they announced they were bankrupt and had no money to pay employees!

 

[EMB170Pilot]

I would not worry about Tab Express. They never got their airline off the ground. And monday they announced they were bankrupt and had no money to pay employees!

Anyone who fell for that scam should really get their a$$ kicked

 

[Way2Broke]

I can't believe "The Delta Connection Academy" is even still around. What a scam!!! The management are all pricks! How can the president of the school drive a new Corvette, and still sleep at night paying instructors 10.00 an hour? What are they charging per hour for instruction these days, 60.00 an hour? What are they renting 152s for, 110??? What a ripp off. This place just chapps my ass! Guaranteed job interview? haha Get mins and send out resumes, thats also a guaranteed job interview! DO NOT GO TO COMAIR AVIATION ACADEMY, OR WHATEVER THEY CALL IT THESE DAYS! ok.... getting off the soap box now

 

[ILSJUNKIE]

I was THAT GUY who told my student not to go to GIA while down in FLL flying 402s working my butt off. I told him that yes times were tough but if you go to GIA and "pay for training" then you will be looked down upon. It will hurt you not help you.


He didnt take the job

Your kidding right? You actually sound proud of your background.

 

[bobbysamd]

MAPD v. Gulfstream

I haven't read every post, but, from what I have read, it's the same old P-F-T argument.

Just begin here on this page of the Gulfstream website:

An Airline-Affiliated First Officer Training Course For Career-Oriented Airline Professionals. "These programs are 100% financed."

Any kind of advertising that promotes "First Officer Training Course" or similar language is an automatic sign of P-F-T. Once again, P-F-T is an employment issue. As a condition of employment, i.e., to be hired, you remit payment to the company for the cost of your training. If there is any doubt as to whether this is paid employment, read the following from this Gulfstream page:

Hours Areas Of Training 80 Ground School Airline Indoctrination And Operations 40 CRM (Crew Resource Management) and Airline Briefing 80 Ground School Beech 1900D Systems Integration 32 Frasca 242 Beech 1900D Turboprop Simulator Training 4 Beech 19000 Aircraft Static Session And EFIS Training 28 Full Flight Simulator Level-O Beech 1900D Flight Training 8 Airline Line Observation Jump Seat Flights Beech 1900D 250 Flying Line As Part-121 Paid First Officer At GIA In Beech 1900D

(emphasis added)

Straight off the page. "Paid First Officer." Is this not buying a job? I understand that Gulfstream P-F-T FOs are paid $8.00 per hour. It could be regarded as a temporary job, but it is a job, nonetheless.

Compare with MAPD:

Designed as an ab initio (from the beginning) program, this training takes pilots from no time or very low time through their private, instrument, commercial, and multi-engine ratings and first officer training in a Jet FTD in less than two years! You will obtain your certificates and ratings in addition to receiving jet systems training designed to prepare you for the flight line.

• As Part 141 schools, San Juan College's program meets rigid FAA guidelines for their pilot training curricula
• All training is geared to meet Mesa Airlines' hiring standards
• Upon completion of the program, successful graduates go through the Mesa hiring process. Those who are hired then go directly into the right seat as First Officers. Average flight time at the point of hire is 250 hours!
• Since the events of September 11, typical upgrade time from First Officer to Captain is two to three years.
• Today's graduates could fly any one of Mesa's aircraft: the Beech 1900, Dash 8/200 series, CRJs, or ERJs. The possibilities are exciting!
• Flight Costs will run about $45,000 to $50,000. Financial aid is available.

(emphasis added)

Anything here about buying a job? No. No guarantees of being hired, either. The only thing being promoted is training, which is all that MAPD is, a 141 flight school. The only guarantees are that it will train you for your ratings and send you to San Juan College for your two-year degree. No promises of rapid promotion to Captain, either.


Do not confuse the MAPD ab initio program with PACE, which is P-F-T's poor relation, pay-for-interview.


Be careful of any program that advertises "First Officer Training Program," "Guaranteed Interview," etc. P-F-T promises are broken all the time. On the other hand, if you have $29,684 in spare change and you want to humiliate and embarass yourself in front of an "employer" and risk a career blackball, then, by all means, go ahead!

 

[bobbysamd]

P-f-t

Let's face it, once someone hits the line, no one really cares where they came from as long as they can fly, know their job, and have a good attitude.

What about the step before "hitting the line," the pilot interview board? Pilots generally work hard to build time and work their way up; they resent anyone who tries to end-run their efforts. I would submit they do care and will throw their blackballs accordingly.

If during interviews, PFT'ers were left behind, we might see a trend away from the likes of GIA, MAPD, TAB Express, etc. Until then PFT will continue to thrive.

Not true. P-F-T thrives because there will always be those people who think they can end-run the system and their peers, who have no problem embarassing themselves and humiliating themselves by buying jobs, and those who want to be "pilots" so badly and cannot be hired conventionally that they will buy jobs via P-F-T.

Once again, P-F-T is an employment issue. Being a professional pilot is still just a job. There are plenty of jobs that can be had for free, without embarassment, humilation and career suicide.

Once again, MAPD's ab initio program is not P-F-T. The PACE program is pay-for-interview, which, again, is P-F-T's poor relation.

 

[EMB170Pilot]

Your kidding right? You actually sound proud of your background.

Sure am...Did everything on my own and did not get help from anyone.
No friend to walk my resume into the regional. No friend to recommend me for my old 135 jobs. No friend to recommend me as a CFI. All on my own! So again, yep feel very d a m n proud.

Thanks for asking

 

[cforst513]

Sorry- this was a press release and looked a lot like a sort of advertising to me. Let them take some of that money that they're taking from people and flow it through to this board to advertise.

Also, given the viewpoints already expressed by many on this board, this is a bit like waving a red flag in front of a bunch of horny bulls. Don't do it, Mav.

UAL78
Moderator

HAHAHAHA, priceless!!!!