Delta asked to leave Dallas Love Field

[waveflyer]

Billy you big sellout-
You're much to reasonable to be taking sides with crazy flop

 

[Flopgut]

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wright_amendment#undefined

Good link. Read it and compare the facts against Bubba's manifesto. The WA included all metroplex airports and not just Love Field. Real simple: the municipalities agreed to build DFW and limit their other airports. SWA went rogue-hippie-squatter and acted like they had some proprietary claim on Love, which was ok--Texas only. It was when they left Texas the problem escalated. SWA wanted the rules re-written just to accommodate their own operation. And that is what SWA has wanted ever since: any/all rules to be re-written to provide them an advantage.

 

[Flopgut]

"Southwest Airlines was founded after the agreement between the airlines and cities to relocate to DFW and was not a party to the agreement, and felt that their business model would be affected by a long drive to the new airport. Before DFW's opening, Southwest filed suit to remain at Love Field, claiming that no legal basis existed to close the airport to commercial service and that they were not bound by an agreement they did not sign. In 1973, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that, so long as Love Field remained open, the City of Dallas could not preclude Southwest from operating there. The ruling was in the regulated environment where the CAB did not have control of travel within a state, the only service Southwest then offered."

Texas only--SWA couldn't be limited. It's not like the supreme court handed SWA a blank check. That's why the end result is 20 gates and no international. FAR more than was ever intended for Love, but never enough if you listen to bubba et al

 

[Flopgut]

Fascinating to me that Federal rulings that limit an airports scope can be interpreted two different ways in Houston and Dallas, both go in SWA's favor. (Both instances include questionable politics) Doj really needs to take a closer look at what's been done

 

[HowardBorden]

I am going to take your advice though. I'm going to put in plenty of my own effort into changing things. Need to find out if the mayor is related to either of the two Parkers that were key SWA people. Make sure when you fail to create 10,000 jobs/$130 ticket to BOG/and a billion $ boost to Houston's economy, that the city council hears about it constantly. And make sure every airline at every Country you fly to out of there understands you're violating bi lateral agreement treaties. So I'll be busy, fun stuff

Good luck with that Flop, please keep us informed how it's going.

 

[HowardBorden]

Fascinating to me that Federal rulings that limit an airports scope can be interpreted two different ways in Houston and Dallas, both go in SWA's favor. (Both instances include questionable politics) Doj really needs to take a closer look at what's been done

SOUTHWEST AIRLINES COMPANY, Plaintiff-Appellee,
v.
TEXAS INTERNATIONAL AIRLINES, INC., et al., Defendants-Appellants,
v.
TEXAS AERONAUTICS COMMISSION, Intervenor-Appellee.

No. 75-2539.

United States Court of Appeals,
Fifth Circuit.


V. CONCLUSION

62
This is the eighth time in three years that a federal court has refused to support the eviction of Southwest Airlines from Love Field. Precisely worded holdings and deference to state authorities by the federal judiciary have only generated more suits, appeals, and petitions for rehearings. Once again, we repeat, Southwest Airlines Co. has a federally declared right to the continued use of and access to Love Field, so long as Love Field remains open. The narrowly drawn preliminary injunction of the district court correctly protects that right. It does so without violating principles of federalism, the federal law of res judicata, or the dictates of due process.

The judgment of the district court is

63
AFFIRMED.

 

[Flopgut]

Let's have the actual link to that Howard. If you don't mind?

 

[shagadelic]

Let's have the actual link to that Howard. If you don't mind?

Let me google that for you:

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Once+again%2C+we+repeat%2C+Southwest+Airlines+Co.+has+a+federally+declared+right

 

[BILL LUMBERG]

Sh!ts gettin real....maybe Dallas should force Southwest to divest their gates? What's that? They are theirs? Really? That never stopped them from crying for somebody elses gates at other cities......




An attorney for Delta Air Lines Inc. threatened to sue the city of Dallas unless it takes ?immediate action to implement a short-term solution? that keeps the Atlanta-based airline flying from Dallas Love Field.
In a nine-page letter to Dallas aviation director Mark Duebner, attorney Kenneth Quinn demanded that the city find room for Delta, which has been flying from Love Field since 2008. It flies five daily nonstops to Atlanta and had planned to add more flights after the Wright amendment expires Oct. 13.
Earlier this week, the city told Delta that it would have to leave Love Field come Oct. 13 because there was no space to accommodate it.
The new Love Field has 20 gates, 16 of which are being used by Southwest Airlines. Two others will be used by Virgin America beginning Oct. 13, and the final two are leased by United Airlines. United is subleasing one to Southwest and has told the city it will use the second to increase its flights to Houston next year.
In his letter, Quinn said Delta was under the impression ?as recently as last week? that the city ?had notified United by letter that it must accommodate Delta on its gates.?
Instead, United handed over one of its gates to Dallas-based Southwest, which had been looking to add to its gates at the city-owned airport.
Delta also said United was not playing fair with its second gate. While the airline is doubling its flights to Houston, it?s also going to ?triple its aircraft ground times in an effort to preclude Delta from using its gates,? Quinn said.
In his letter to Duebner, Quinn included a copy of United?s proposed service levels in 2015, showing that each plane will spend about 90 minutes on the ground, which is three times longer than its planes spend on the ground now.
?It is simply not true, as the city would have it, that there is no room at the inn for Delta,? Quinn said in his letter. ?The truth is, the city decided the available gate space should go to hometown favorite Southwest ? which already controls 80 percent of the gates at Love Field ? instead of to Delta, which would have used the gate space to compete with Southwest.?
Duebner, First Assistant City Manager Ryan Evans and City Attorney Warren Ernst did not respond to emails seeking comment.
Earlier this week, City Manager A.C. Gonzalez said, ?We understand that while the situation we?re looking at is subject to some disagreement, we are going to maintain our view that we want full utilization and robust competition for Love Field.?
Quinn said that at the minimum, Delta wants the city to let it keep flying out of Love Field until January, if only to accommodate the 16,000 passengers who have already purchased tickets out of the airport. But it also wants to stay in Dallas. Anything less, writes Quinn, will probably wind up with a trip to the courthouse.
?Although we are hopeful that the city will accommodate Delta?s request,? he writes, ?these attempts to resolve this matter will not preclude Delta from seeking additional relief at law or in equity.?
Delta also had asked Virgin America to find space for Delta?s flights at Virgin?s two gates. Virgin America chief executive David Cush said his carrier turned down Delta?s request.
?Our answer is: We?re fully utilizing our gates,? Cush said this week.
Virgin America will move its operations from Dallas/Fort Worth International Airport to Love Field on Oct. 13, the day that federal law will allow nonstop service from Dallas to any U.S. airport. It begins operations with nine departures a day, going to 13 departures Oct. 28 and 16 departures in April.
Virgin America is allowing tiny carrier SeaPort Airlines to use its gates for two daily departures for El Dorado, Ark.
?We?ll accommodate them as long as we can. We?ll see how long it is,? Cush said.
?But certainly with 16 flights, we can accommodate them. With 18, it?ll be a little trickier,? he said. ?But you know, they wanted two flights a day. They didn?t want the pattern of service that Delta was looking for.?

 

[HowardBorden]

Let's have the actual link to that Howard. If you don't mind?

Have you never heard of this magical web search tool called Google?
Paragraph 62.

http://openjurist.org/546/f2d/84/southwest-airlines-company-v-texas-international-airlines-inc