Delta and Northwest revive merger talks

[Jimmy C. Corn]

Regarding seniority list integration factors: I was thinking it should be based on spouse's waist size.

That would ensure 737 Pylt is at the top of the list. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

 

[andyd]

That works for me too, the older we get the wider we get: I'd be able to be a "wide" body Captain!

 

[Kugelblitz]

You know I agree. We tend to look after our own interests first within our own pilot groups.

The mess at USAir/AWA, TWA/AA, now potentially at DAL/NWA, and what we've all seen in our own pilot groups show this.

I don't have the answer, but with all of this ALPA talk we've got to acknowledge that it (seniority integration) has never been done in harmony.

We pilots are selfish bastards

Sadly, a couple of years ago the UAW took less of a pay raise than it could have to keep 2 plants open. Of course we pilots are above all that.

 

[tomgoodman]

Latest move

Executives at Minnesota-based Northwest have since put pressure on their counterparts at Delta to proceed without the pilots' support.

Delta's board members, who convened a meeting late last week to discuss the company's options, agreed to press ahead with negotiations, the people said. Those talks are now intensifying, with the two sides set to meet again this week, they said.

Squeeze play. They hope that one or both pilot groups will fear arbitration enough to cave on the list. They may be right.

 

[Jimmy C. Corn]

Executives at Minnesota-based Northwest have since put pressure on their counterparts at Delta to proceed without the pilots' support.

Of what significance is that? I can't imagine anyone having less influence over Delta's board than Steenland and NWA.

 

[Noserider76]

Squeeze play. They hope that one or both pilot groups will fear arbitration enough to cave on the list. They may be right.

Well, we know one side is in love with the idea of arbitration though I can't figure out why. Piss away all the equity and contract improvements and probably end up with a list very close to the one negotiated last month. Good plan.

Arbitration may be a foregone conclusion now anyway. I see much less chance of a negotiated settlement now as both sides are going to want to protect their group from a fleet most like to be grounded in very tough economic conditions while the other side screams bloody murder.

 

[Superpilot92]

Why, you'll be furloughed. Might as well stay asleep. LOL

You' really are an embarrassment to the XJT pilot group. Remind me again why you insist on flaming fellow XJT pilots who have moved on? Whats the matter have you run out of flames towards the CAL pilots? I would worry about yourself before you start to worry about me. Thanks for your concern though TOOL

 

[tomgoodman]

Bluffing 101

Well, we know one side is in love with the idea of arbitration though I can't figure out why.

Perhaps not as much love as is proclaimed. Negotiators always assert that a "fair" arbitrator would surely support their position, but they know it's a big risk and conceal their fears, lest they give the other side a bargaining advantage. For the same reason, both sides overstate their desire to leave carrots on the table and "go it alone". All public statements should be regarded as just part of the negotiating process.

 

[737 Pylt]

Regarding seniority list integration factors: I was thinking it should be based on spouse's waist size.

That would ensure 737 Pylt is at the top of the list. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Now that's not very nice, after all, you call that person....."mom.":laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

737

 

[737 Pylt]

Of what significance is that? I can't imagine anyone having less influence over Delta's board than Steenland and NWA.

That's because you don't have a brain to imagine with, numbnutz!
jke406, you use a different name, but its the same old useless info! Be careful on your asa salary, you might not be able to afford another $10
Now go sing in as jmoney you troll!

737

 

[Noserider76]

Perhaps not as much love as is proclaimed. Negotiators always assert that a "fair" arbitrator would surely support their position, but they know it's a big risk and conceal their fears, lest they give the other side a bargaining advantage. For the same reason, both sides overstate their desire to leave carrots on the table and "go it alone". All public statements should be regarded as just part of the negotiating process.

Good points, as usual. The question now is if the company still cares about a negotiated settlement or have we made ourselves irrelevant? We may still have some leverage if the company wants to avoid fences. Major fences are the most likely outcome of an arbitrated settlement considering the fleet and base differential in my opinion.

 

[tomgoodman]

Fat Lady hasn't sung yet

Good points, as usual. The question now is if the company still cares about a negotiated settlement or have we made ourselves irrelevant?

My guess? They still want it and are willing to pay something to get it. Stock prices are up sharply on the mere rumor of renewed talks, and "they" own a lot of stock. The window of opportunity is probably still open.

 

[737 Pylt]

Back to the thread.

My guess? They still want it and are willing to pay something to get it. Stock prices are up sharply on the mere rumor of renewed talks, and "they" own a lot of stock. The window of opportunity is probably still open.

Tom:
The window of opportunity is always open. Its just a matter of when the guys in charge (hedge funds) want to pull the trigger!

737

 

[Jmoney]

Sweet!

Piss off you little scared troll! Shouldn't you be at the local malls trolling after young boys! Now run along jimmy c. cornhole! Keep throwing stones behind your keyboard you chicken sh**!

737

Very nice for a retard! Most second graders have the punctuation acumen necessary to determine that the second sentence you wrote should have ended with a question mark!

I guess we will have to cut you some slack-most second graders who can write better than you are not mentally retarded.

-Tough break, there skippy!

 

[ACL65PILOT]

Like any of this is a surprise.
Lets just start best on when we are going to be told that we are going to do it with out you....

I will echo the fact that many of the people on DAL SPC were given trip drops in about a week or so.
Dark clouds ahead....