Delta and Northwest revive merger talks

[Noserider76]

Squeeze play. They hope that one or both pilot groups will fear arbitration enough to cave on the list. They may be right.

Well, we know one side is in love with the idea of arbitration though I can't figure out why. Piss away all the equity and contract improvements and probably end up with a list very close to the one negotiated last month. Good plan.

Arbitration may be a foregone conclusion now anyway. I see much less chance of a negotiated settlement now as both sides are going to want to protect their group from a fleet most like to be grounded in very tough economic conditions while the other side screams bloody murder.

 

[Superpilot92]

Why, you'll be furloughed. Might as well stay asleep. LOL

You' really are an embarrassment to the XJT pilot group. Remind me again why you insist on flaming fellow XJT pilots who have moved on? Whats the matter have you run out of flames towards the CAL pilots? I would worry about yourself before you start to worry about me. Thanks for your concern though TOOL

 

[tomgoodman]

Bluffing 101

Well, we know one side is in love with the idea of arbitration though I can't figure out why.

Perhaps not as much love as is proclaimed. Negotiators always assert that a "fair" arbitrator would surely support their position, but they know it's a big risk and conceal their fears, lest they give the other side a bargaining advantage. For the same reason, both sides overstate their desire to leave carrots on the table and "go it alone". All public statements should be regarded as just part of the negotiating process.

 

[737 Pylt]

Regarding seniority list integration factors: I was thinking it should be based on spouse's waist size.

That would ensure 737 Pylt is at the top of the list. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Now that's not very nice, after all, you call that person....."mom.":laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

737

 

[737 Pylt]

Of what significance is that? I can't imagine anyone having less influence over Delta's board than Steenland and NWA.

That's because you don't have a brain to imagine with, numbnutz!
jke406, you use a different name, but its the same old useless info! Be careful on your asa salary, you might not be able to afford another $10
Now go sing in as jmoney you troll!

737

 

[Noserider76]

Perhaps not as much love as is proclaimed. Negotiators always assert that a "fair" arbitrator would surely support their position, but they know it's a big risk and conceal their fears, lest they give the other side a bargaining advantage. For the same reason, both sides overstate their desire to leave carrots on the table and "go it alone". All public statements should be regarded as just part of the negotiating process.

Good points, as usual. The question now is if the company still cares about a negotiated settlement or have we made ourselves irrelevant? We may still have some leverage if the company wants to avoid fences. Major fences are the most likely outcome of an arbitrated settlement considering the fleet and base differential in my opinion.

 

[tomgoodman]

Fat Lady hasn't sung yet

Good points, as usual. The question now is if the company still cares about a negotiated settlement or have we made ourselves irrelevant?

My guess? They still want it and are willing to pay something to get it. Stock prices are up sharply on the mere rumor of renewed talks, and "they" own a lot of stock. The window of opportunity is probably still open.

 

[737 Pylt]

Back to the thread.

My guess? They still want it and are willing to pay something to get it. Stock prices are up sharply on the mere rumor of renewed talks, and "they" own a lot of stock. The window of opportunity is probably still open.

Tom:
The window of opportunity is always open. Its just a matter of when the guys in charge (hedge funds) want to pull the trigger!

737

 

[Jmoney]

Sweet!

Piss off you little scared troll! Shouldn't you be at the local malls trolling after young boys! Now run along jimmy c. cornhole! Keep throwing stones behind your keyboard you chicken sh**!

737

Very nice for a retard! Most second graders have the punctuation acumen necessary to determine that the second sentence you wrote should have ended with a question mark!

I guess we will have to cut you some slack-most second graders who can write better than you are not mentally retarded.

-Tough break, there skippy!

 

[ACL65PILOT]

Like any of this is a surprise.
Lets just start best on when we are going to be told that we are going to do it with out you....

I will echo the fact that many of the people on DAL SPC were given trip drops in about a week or so.
Dark clouds ahead....

 

[Cobraair75drvr]

Don't know how to copy and paste a pdf, but DALPA applied and was approved by the MAC(minneapolis airport commission) for informational picketing. The dates are 4/10 thru 4/24 from noon-5pm. Makes you go hmmm.

 

[NuGuy]

Don't know how to copy and paste a pdf, but DALPA applied and was approved by the MAC(minneapolis airport commission) for informational picketing. The dates are 4/10 thru 4/24 from noon-5pm. Makes you go hmmm.

Linky?

Nu

 

[FBN0223]

Who are they planning on picketing, NWA management?

 

[ACL65PILOT]

Probably.
Why wouldn't they.
Maybe this will get all of us on the same boat.

 

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Worst case scenario - no merger. Delta whipsawed with NWA pilots.

 

[FBN0223]

Probably.
Why wouldn't they.
Maybe this will get all of us on the same boat.

A good start would be at least picketing together.

 

[737 Pylt]

Recommendation for everyone!

This was long overdue!

This message is hidden because Jmoney is on your ignore list.

 

[Jimmy C. Corn]

A good start would be at least picketing together.

No, that would not help at all.

Picketing together will give management the idea that the two groups will bend over together for any merger.

That is most certainly not the case.

 

[737 Pylt]

Worst case scenario - no merger. Delta whipsawed with NWA pilots.

Fins:
Then you're looking at a whole new disaster!
I'd actually like to see us go at a SLI with fences. The whipsaw that management would throw at us would make the LCC east/west look like an opening act for Milli Vanilli!

737

 

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737:

Most folks liked the "Fair Plan" I posted, but, it never went anywhere.

Looks like fight's on.