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[Donsa320]

Forgot the 15F, this was a 10 series with a factory cargo door so airlines could convert them and fly pax during the day and cargo at night. DAL did this for a while in the late 60's turned out to be a flop. A 15F has two over wing exits, the 10 only has one over wign exit. A bid of trivia from the cargo world.

The -10's and -15's were referred to as the 2 door and 4 door models respectively.

DC

 

[Firebird]

quote=BigMotorToter;1634132]TWA operated a DC-9-33F. Don't know who they bought it from but only two were ever made if I remember correctly. It's sister ship ditched down in the Caribbean somewhere after they ran out of gas shooting an NDB approach to a missed approach several times to some small island. Don't remember the who the operator was.[/quote




I Think that was Overseas National Airways at St. Thomas in the Virgin Islands

 

[CopilotDoug]

Yes it was ONA and they were operating as BWIA if I recall correctly, British West India Airways. The cockpit crew only gave the cabin crew a few miniutes warning that they were ditching. At night too as I recall. Its a wonder that anyone got out alive.

DC

Didn't this one float a little bit due to fuel exhaustion?

I'm trying to find pictures of it, but apparently, there were a few DC-9s fitted with JATO packs

 

[aa73]

Yes it was ONA and they were operating as BWIA if I recall correctly, British West India Airways. The cockpit crew only gave the cabin crew a few miniutes warning that they were ditching. At night too as I recall. Its a wonder that anyone got out alive.

DC

It was indeed ONA, but operating with a split crew - ONA pilots (CA, F/O and Navigator) and ALM (Antillean Airlines) F/As.

The flight was from JFK-SXM (St Maarten). WX deviations enroute. As they began their descent, SJU ATC informed them that WX at SXM was below minimums, so they initiated a divert to SJU. However a few minutes later, the wx at SXM came back up above mins, so they reestablished course to SXM. They arrived at SXM and attempted 3 NDB approaches. All unsuccessful due to WX, and well into their fuel reserves, they were given a clearance to St Thomas. They instead chose St Croix, which was closer. They ran out of fuel enroute to St Croix and ditched in the ocean.

The PA system was inop, so the CA chose to warn the F/As with several chimes just prior to impact - despite not having briefed this with the F/As. As a result, some of the F/As were still standing during impact.

The aircraft floated for awhile before sinking. 22 pax and 1 crewmember perished. 35 pax and 5 crewmembers survived.

 

[pilotyip]

Is this the where the raft was inflated inside the A/C?

 

[Redmeat]

Is this the where the raft was inflated inside the A/C?

It is indeed.

 

[jetflier]

Here is some info on that ONA crash:

http://www.super70s.com/Super70s/Tech/Aviation/Disasters/70-05-02(Antillean).asp

http://www.super70s.com/Super70s/Tech/Aviation/Disasters/70-05-02(Antillean).asp

http://www.super70s.com/Super70s/Tech/Aviation/Disasters/70-05-02(Antillean).asp

 

[jetflier]

http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=19700502-0&lang=fr

 

[LR25]

Didn't this one float a little bit due to fuel exhaustion?

I'm trying to find pictures of it, but apparently, there were a few DC-9s fitted with JATO packs

ABX had(has) a few with the fairings fitted for the JATO's

 

[Superpilot92]

ABX had(has) a few with the fairings fitted for the JATO's

heres a picture

https://www.abxair.com/flightweb/ABX Air History/images/c9_jato(2).jpg

https://www.abxair.com/flightweb/ABX Air History/images/c9_jato(1).jpg

 

[LR25]

heres a picture

https://www.abxair.com/flightweb/ABX Air History/images/c9_jato(2).jpg

https://www.abxair.com/flightweb/ABX Air History/images/c9_jato(1).jpg

904, worked on her when I was MX there. Hate to see in yellow though!

 

[CopilotDoug]

heres a picture

https://www.abxair.com/flightweb/ABX Air History/images/c9_jato(2).jpg

https://www.abxair.com/flightweb/ABX Air History/images/c9_jato(1).jpg

Nice pictures

 

[erichartmann]

ABX had(has) a few with the fairings fitted for the JATO's

ABX operated some of them in early/mid '80s with the JATO system still "active", notably out of COS. The system was armed for T/O with a key, and if an engine was lost after V1 and prior to top of second segment the system was used to get the aircraft to top of second segment. I don't remember if the bottles fired automatically if an engine was lost or if a button had to be pushed. I do remember there was a button to fire the bottles, but it may have been a backup. The aircraft had a fuel dump system, which allowed the crew to dump down to a weight that allowed a single engine missed approach upon retrun to the field if it became necessary. As I recall someone set up a senairo in the sim where the aircraft was at 800' AGL & V2 one engine at the max allowable T/O weight with the system armed. The aircraft would not accelerate, you could not turn, or climb. All you could do was fly straight and level until you had dumped enough fuel to gain some margin of performance.

 

[PHXFLYR]

Forgot the 15F, this was a 10 series with a factory cargo door so airlines could convert them and fly pax during the day and cargo at night. DAL did this for a while in the late 60's turned out to be a flop. A 15F has two over wing exits, the 10 only has one over wign exit. A bid of trivia from the cargo world.

Don't think it was Delta that did that. They never ordered 15F's , just 10's ; 30's and of course the MD 88's . I believe it was Continental that had the 15F's you refer to and used them as freighter's at night in the late 60's and early 70's.


PHXFLYR