DALPA: "Clear out lockers" (merged)

[inthewind]

Famous last words as one pilot group falls on their sword and another one swoops in to take the flying. Thats the problem theres always somewhere out there in todays environment ready to do so. Do you guys really think that no one will fly delta routes once they are liquidated if the strike does happen?

Your all living in a dream world if you actually think there would ever be a nationwide strike. All these people are egging you delta guys on because they want your flying when you liquidate. I say make it every man for himself. Take the cuts now and try to make it up later! Its the only way to fly

Get a clue man! It's not about taking their flying, it's about saying enough is enough! Industrywide we have all been bending over and taking it, well finally someone has gotten up enough sack to say, No!

Delta guys you have my support! Good luck.

 

[aussiefly]

Best of luck on the strike Delta. If you strike and wanna get away for a bit PM me as my parents own a small hotel just out of Sydney and i'm sure I can arrange some free accomodation for out striking brethren (They have just started their winter slow season).

cheers

 

[YourPilotFriend]

Get a clue man! It's not about taking their flying, it's about saying enough is enough! Industrywide we have all been bending over and taking it, well finally someone has gotten up enough sack to say, No!

Delta guys you have my support! Good luck.

If they want to survive, they will have to come down to the likes of UA, US, NWA, whatever. Just don't give up anymore than what is already given up. Liquidating will increase LCC traffic, which in turn will lower unit cost for the LCC'S and stress the majors once again. If Delta pilots don't want to bargin, then it is up to them to decide what to do. You can't tell anyone to fall on their own sword for something you gave up before them, just because it will help you.

 

[AC560]

Good luck to all the employees of Delta.

 

[PC12Cowboy]

The only way we all win is we all ALL SAY EOUGH IS ENOUGH...Stand beside your fellow pilot and support their cause...because in reality it is ALL OUR CAUSE!!!!!

 

[kiteflyer]

As someone who will loose my job if you strike-- I say --please, please, please--hold the line--Someone has to stand up for this profession!!

 

[800Dog]

The only way we all win is we all ALL SAY EOUGH IS ENOUGH...Stand beside your fellow pilot and support their cause...because in reality it is ALL OUR CAUSE!!!!!

Someone who gets it. Beers are on me.

 

[800Dog]

As someone who will loose my job if you strike-- I say --please, please, please--hold the line--Someone has to stand up for this profession!!

Another one who gets it. I'll buy you a round also.

 

[D'Angelo]

The only way we all win is we all ALL SAY EOUGH IS ENOUGH...Stand beside your fellow pilot and support their cause...because in reality it is ALL OUR CAUSE!!!!!

Another sheep to the slaughter. How long do you think itd take AirTran or Southwest to start replacing those routes after liquidation? Answer not long at all and the bar still isnt held. No way to win this fight. Take the cut and live to fight another day is the best solution. It worked for Airways and United. We are clearly in an over-capacity situation right now. The flying is easily replaceable once delta liquidates. No one will remember nor appriciate. If there was a shortage I could understand. The reason people are cheering the delta guys on is they want someone outta the loop so they can get more flying for themselves. No more brotherhood, no more unity, every man for himself is the name of this game!

 

[inthewind]

Another sheep to the slaughter. How long do you think itd take AirTran or Southwest to start replacing those routes after liquidation? Answer not long at all and the bar still isnt held. No way to win this fight. Take the cut and live to fight another day is the best solution. It worked for Airways and United. We are clearly in an over-capacity situation right now. The flying is easily replaceable once delta liquidates. No one will remember nor appriciate. If there was a shortage I could understand. The reason people are cheering the delta guys on is they want someone outta the loop so they can get more flying for themselves. No more brotherhood, no more unity, every man for himself is the name of this game!

Hey smartguy, when is the last time a 737 flew ATL to Moscow or Paris?

 

[Groundpounder]

Good luck on the job hunt Delta pilots. Get in line with the ticket agents, bag chuckers, and VP's at McD's when you are all jobless.

I heart unions

 

[800Dog]

Good luck on the job hunt Delta pilots. Get in line with the ticket agents, bag chuckers, and VP's at McD's when you are all jobless.

I heart unions

Why would we take our college degrees and graduate degrees to McD's? Get a life!

 

[D'Angelo]

Good luck on the job hunt Delta pilots. Get in line with the ticket agents, bag chuckers, and VP's at McD's when you are all jobless.

I heart unions

I hear ya there man. Pretty selfish of one group to think they have the right to throw all the other employees on the street. Time for a revamping of the RLA.

 

[737 Pylt]

I hear ya there man. Pretty selfish of one group to think they have the right to throw all the other employees on the street. Time for a revamping of the RLA.

And to think, somewhere there's a village without its idiot!
737

 

[pilotyip]

800 dog not to flame or cause a roit here, but if a Delta pilot has been out of college an average of 25 years (Figuring the average DAL pilot is 47 years old). The value of a college degree in the job market looses a lot of its job seeking power. I have a BS and a Master's in business and have looked for jobs outside of aviation in my early 50's, there is not many jobs out there. I use the example of my college degreed brother at GM in management, been there almost 28 years does not make as much as the new proposed DAL salaries. So for all the DAL guys who think they will jump into something close to what they are making now when they shut the place down, good luck. Let us know how the job hunt went.

 

[h25b]

800 dog not to flame or cause a roit here, but if a Delta pilot has been out of college an average of 25 years (Figuring the average DAL pilot is 47 years old). The value of a college degree in the job market looses a lot of its job seeking power. I have a BS and a Master's in business and have looked for jobs outside of aviation in my early 50's, there is not many jobs out there. I use the example of my college degreed brother at GM in management, been there almost 28 years does not make as much as the new proposed DAL salaries. So for all the DAL guys who think they will jump into something close to what they are making now when they shut the place down, good luck. Let us know how the job hunt went.

I agree. Those on here saying to STFD and just go on to another profession are foolish. Nobody will be able to just jump out and make anything close to what they would make, even after concessions..

 

[FoxHunter]

800 dog not to flame or cause a roit here, but if a Delta pilot has been out of college an average of 25 years (Figuring the average DAL pilot is 47 years old). The value of a college degree in the job market looses a lot of its job seeking power. I have a BS and a Master's in business and have looked for jobs outside of aviation in my early 50's, there is not many jobs out there. I use the example of my college degreed brother at GM in management, been there almost 28 years does not make as much as the new proposed DAL salaries. So for all the DAL guys who think they will jump into something close to what they are making now when they shut the place down, good luck. Let us know how the job hunt went.

It will be a shock even if they try to stay in the flying game. I had a friend at Singapore when things at EAL were going bad. Quite a few EAL guys tried to make the transition to SIA. My friend's comment was that the EAL guys were untrainable. It is not about ability, it is about the difference in culture among the airlines.

 

[Cactus-Wrench]

I agree. Those on here saying to STFD and just go on to another profession are foolish. Nobody will be able to just jump out and make anything close to what they would make, even after concessions..

I don't work for delta, but I think a lot of the guys/gals that this does effect realize that. I can't help but not support a work group that is willing to possibly speak with action and not just words. Especially when the paycuts, concessions, work rule adjustments have allready been given back and then to read about the jacka$$es at the rudder funneling millions on real important cost cutting programs, etc.. remodeling atl airport, I'm sure the new club clown room is spectacular.
I guess the bottom line is, after several years of working nights, holidays, weekends, commuting, expenses, being away from family a ton, laid off, furloughed multiple times, moving more times than would care too,
It's not worth it!!! The love of aviation crap, drained from the blood a couple furloughs back.
Give em hell DALPA

 

[Gorilla]

Go DALPA, do what you have to do. You have my respect.

Our own APA had our moments in the past... the strike cancelled by slick willie, when the UPS strike, which did infinitely more "damage to the economy", went unnoticed by the govt. in Washington... the disastrous "sick out" which was crushed by a judge. We have since grown compliant and malleable. Ignore the bleating sheep here who aren't mainline pilots. It's your job and by extension our profession you fight for.

The guys who claim "It'll be McDonalds for you buddy!" are just wrong. 2/3 of the furloughed AA pilots, when asked, said "I'm not coming back." They have found good employment elsewhere, some flying, others in professional jobs.

 

[Exskydiverdrivr]

I hear ya there man. Pretty selfish of one group to think they have the right to throw all the other employees on the street. Time for a revamping of the RLA.

This guy must be Mgmt. Thank you Delta guys for drawing the line in the sand and sticking to it. Best of luck guys.

Skywest does NOT fly struck work.