DALPA: "Clear out lockers" (merged)

[Echopapa]

I can't imagine flying without a contract....

Without a contract...and inevitably any retirement plan...why not leave? Stay and work 25 days a month, minimal FAA duty protections, and for what..50k a year?

Every pilot at Delta has a college degree....go get a real job. A job that lets you be home every night. Be that business guy in first class drinking the champagne selling whatever for 150K a year.

If it was my call I would not blink about loosing a career with no benefits, no retirement, and no contract....

Good Luck...keep strong.

 

[Lollie]

I consider this situation really sad, no matter what the outcome is. I suspect that if the contract is thrown out that at least 1/2 the workforce will leave eventually making the industry a mess and many of our lives. We will have to move around, switch bases and I'm sure many of us will switch companies. I don't see much reason to make light of the situation. I do wish I was born 30 years ago and my spouse was in the industry back then. At least there would be more financial incentive to fly and do such a strenuous job. After knowing that this job was my spouses passion and love he recently said something that that broke my heart. When asked to talk to an actual airline pilot by a boy of age 12, my spouse said, "I don't konw what to say, tell him to go to med school." I am sad for my spouse's stress, not just my own being married to him in this messy chaotic industry.

 

[SWA/FO]

What is in the lockers? Brain bag? Good Luck guys...

 

[PC12Cowboy]

Glad that you Guys are showing a united front..now if all the other pilots will stop flying MAYBE themanagement will get a clue that all those bonuses go away when there is no money coming in..and they raise the prices to match the fuel costs...people pay more for gas at the pumps and complain but still pay..why do they expect the airline seat prices to go down..oppisite of the fuel cost...UNITED WORK STOPAGE PLEASE..
if not it will be a race to the bottom and it wont be pretty

 

[A350]

Delta pilots:

No matter what you do, there will be lots of pain to endure.

Do what you must. Do what you will. However, I see no winners here, as you cannot be a winner in this type of scenario. All you have is your pride and your integrity. And that is the problem. You are damned if you strike to possibly be out of a job, and if you settle you will get hell from the thousands of babies on here who will chastise you for doing what you have to to survive and therefore not give up thousands of hours of flying and jobs to the people on here who want you to fail for their own "gain".....

You have my support no matter what you decide.

A350

 

[vetrider]

Good luck guys.

 

[WhiteCloud]

I consider this situation really sad, no matter what the outcome is. I suspect that if the contract is thrown out that at least 1/2 the workforce will leave eventually making the industry a mess and many of our lives. We will have to move around, switch bases and I'm sure many of us will switch companies. I don't see much reason to make light of the situation. I do wish I was born 30 years ago and my spouse was in the industry back then. At least there would be more financial incentive to fly and do such a strenuous job. After knowing that this job was my spouses passion and love he recently said something that that broke my heart. When asked to talk to an actual airline pilot by a boy of age 12, my spouse said, "I don't konw what to say, tell him to go to med school." I am sad for my spouse's stress, not just my own being married to him in this messy chaotic industry.

Learning to fly is still a good thing for someone to do, but, unfortunately your husband's advice is right on the money. The current state of shenanigans between management and pilots is the way it's going to be. Tell the kids to learn to fly for fun and to build confidence but pursue something more viable for a career. You don't have to have a job flying A-B and B-A to benefit from learning to fly.

 

[jws717]

Give them hell guys, you guys are taking a stand for all of us... i wish this stance would have been taken a few years ago when it first started going down hill. We forget that no matter what America will always need pilots! and yes there are alot of low timers out there to hire, but quality is also an issue to the airlines when the insurance kicks up thier rates due to low timers in jetz.

godspeed DALPA

 

[SBD]

I'm not a mainline pilot. Not even a regional pilot. I'm just a low time CFI at the Delta's connection airline academy. All I have to say "Take those greedy bastards for all that they have." Get 'em guys!!!!!!!

 

[Archie Bunker]

What is in the lockers? Brain bag? Good Luck guys...

Normally we keep our flight kit in the locker, along with anything else you don't have to take home with you....such as your hat, and that's about all you can fit in there.

We also have "commuter rooms" in the pilot lounge where guys keep their uniforms, shoes, and anything else you could think of that can't fit in your locker.

I'm starting to see empty lockers with the doors left wide open to indicate that they've been cleaned out.

I have a feeling that management will blink first due to their greed. They saw what Tilton and his buddies got when UAL emerged from BK. I'm sure that all of our senior execs want the exact same thing.

 

[enigma]

If you strike, and management doesn't cave, that would tell me that management has no faith in the companies long term prospects and the end is inevitable. Therefore I can see of no good that could come from pilot concessions at this point. If you strike and they shut down, it was going to happen anyway. If you strike and they give, you will have saved your contract.

I say strike, only because I think that your management is bluffing and because I think that you will win. If I thought that DAL corp was sincere, I'd probably tell you to save your job and live to fight another day. If you strike, I'll happily write the check for my strike assessment.

enigma

 

[EatinRamen]

Delta pilots... Stand Strong!

I'm tired of Corporate America taking away pay and benefits from the working class.

I'm tired of this industry going to the ********************ter cause of pay cuts, downsizing, and slashed benefits.

I support you all for what you're doing, and hope that management sides with the Delta pilots.

 

[RichO]

Let's get ready to rumble.......

Boys, it's time someone takes one for the team....do what you need to, the industry is in a spiral until someone takes one for the team........Let management sweat!!! ......it's time to lift the middle finger and say screw you.......enough is enough

 

[goflyme]

stay strong,

could you imagine if corporate america puts a company in jeopardy over concessions.

Stay strong, I will be happy for assesments on us for you guys.

 

[bluejuice787]

Good Luck Fellas and Gals!!!

You are doing the right thing and we are all lucky to have you fighting this fight we are all too timid to fight!

Juice

 

[800Dog]

Alot of support and it is greatly appreciated but, what are the rest of you willing to sacrifice for the profession? If Delta pilots strike and an injunction is imposed would you all support a nationwide SOS? Its easy to watch from the sidelines and tell others what to do. This is a problem facing the profession as a whole. Step up!!

 

[D'Angelo]

Boys, it's time someone takes one for the team....do what you need to, the industry is in a spiral until someone takes one for the team........Let management sweat!!! ......it's time to lift the middle finger and say screw you.......enough is enough

Famous last words as one pilot group falls on their sword and another one swoops in to take the flying. Thats the problem theres always somewhere out there in todays environment ready to do so. Do you guys really think that no one will fly delta routes once they are liquidated if the strike does happen?

Your all living in a dream world if you actually think there would ever be a nationwide strike. All these people are egging you delta guys on because they want your flying when you liquidate. I say make it every man for himself. Take the cuts now and try to make it up later! Its the only way to fly

 

[CaptainMark]

Famous last words as one pilot group falls on their sword and another one swoops in to take the flying. Thats the problem theres always somewhere out there in todays environment ready to do so. Do you guys really think that no one will fly delta routes once they are liquidated if the strike does happen?

Your all living in a dream world if you actually think there would ever be a nationwide strike. All these people are egging you delta guys on because they want your flying when you liquidate. I say make it every man for himself. Take the cuts now and try to make it up later! Its the only way to fly

we all know mr. chicken grease is clueless....why don't you scurry off back to the regional board....the delta boys don't need to hear your opinions....have u ever gotten a positive response from anyone on this board???? you are still an idiot....

 

[regionaltard]

Cry 'Havoc,' and let slip the dogs of war.......


I honestly don't care for the attitudes of several of you more prolific Delta types here, but anyone who choses to take a stand if and when the time actually comes has my respect, and gratitude.

Good luck.

 

[pilotyip]

We have a lot of empty lockers, and will probably be hiring in the next couple months. So if you want to live in Detroit and have a locker all your own keep us in mind. Starting pay DA-20 F/O 35K