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[JoeMerchant]

And you can bet the company will take disciplinary action against them. I'll bet scheduling is busy compiling a lists of "no-shows" and is packing on the occurences. One more thing ALPA will have to negotiate away before our contract is completed.

Palerider,
The company has flown in relief supplies, trucked in relief supplies, and evacuated employees from other airlines.

 

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Joe:

Palerider is correct about the Company capitalizing on their employees' misfortune my piling on the occurrences when a natural disaster strikes. In fact I have a couple of "occurrences" that I "earned" while water was pouring through gaping holes in my roof after a hurricane.

ASA has, and will, victimize their employees in some of the most horrible ways imaginable. You were here. You know the stories of employees who were fired during our last contract for going home to be with their dying parents and you know ALPA had to negotiate to get their jobs back.

You are right - bottom line is that Delta may be out for the 10 count before long. The Wall Street Journal mentioned short term insolvency if Delta doesn't get their Chapter 11 package to the Courthouse. I think we ASA pilots should do everything possible to keep ASA and by extension Delta on its feet because it does benefit us in the short term.

However, ASA has a few managers who deserve whatever they get. These few are some of the most malevolent people walking the face of this planet and they have managed us right to the point where we are now. These people hate pilots and they let you know it every opportunity they can.

All of us hired into ASA full of optimisim, faith, and willing to go the extra mile to see our airline succeed. Our natural inclination is to take pride in our work and where we work. Lets face it, it took a bunch of abuse for us to give up and start digging trenches. Most of us are entrenched and perfectly willing to shut this place down.

But - we are even more willing to see a revolution. I'm sure everyone would prefer that ASA be an airline customers prefer to fly, feeding a big and increasingly international Delta mainline.

Our line employees must treat our customers like friends. Our middle level managers need to realize that the front line employees are their customers and treat them the way they want us to treat the passengers. "Good Goes Round" that motto has to include the middle level managers too.

One fast way for SkyWest to establish street cred with the ASA pilots (and the financial community) is to send some of the little hitlers packing.

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[JoeMerchant]

My good friend Fins, I agree with most of what you said. I agree that we have some lame middle and upper level managers. My point is we shouldn't get tunnel vision on trying to get even with these managers. ALPA's failures over the years have zapped our leverage. There is no unity in this so called union. Many of ALPA's leaders suffer from the same disease that inflicts ASA management. I am confident that SKYW will improve things. Unfortunately I can't same the same about ALPA.

Fins, I had my sword out in '98. I also fought the good fight while our CMR brothers were on strike. I picketed in '98 and in '01 with the CMR pilots. Now is not the time to pick a fight with our new owners. We must concentrate on circling the wagons, growing the company, and reforming our sorry excuse for a union. Only then can we return to battle.

 

[601Pilot]

Ahhh.... yes... the old you must be management argument technique. Very predictable. For the record, I'm glad he is moving on down the road. I also would like to see CT move on down the road. While we're at it, I wouldn't mind seeing some people in ALPA, starting with our hypocritical Pres. DW move on down the road.

Only if we are cost competitive with the competition. You are familiar with what happened to ACA, Air Wisc., ALG, and PDT after USAir and United filed BK? They all had very good contracts, and now 3 of the 4 are either gone or do not provide lift for UAL/USAir. The 4th. did not get any new flying and took paycuts.

First of all, it's OUR gas and OUR company. We don't have Skip's golden parachute. Secondly, you might want to try "cut off our nose to spite our face" for a motto.

I agree CT and DW should go, but you'll have to talk to some of the big players
in ALPA to get DW out. The regionals don't have much power at the national
level.

The last time I checked we were cost competitive with SkyWest. I fully
anticipate that Skywest will shift all of our 70 flying to them and some of their
50 flying to us because of the difference in rates. If we don't have any 70s,
then the pay rate is irrelevant. Since we are a couple of bucks cheaper (at
the moment) on the 50, it would make business sense for them. I don't
like it, but that is what I'm waiting to see.

First of all, it's DAL's gas and DAL's company. If this is your only job, then
you are definitely in the minority here at ASA. Most of the people I know
have other jobs or, at the least, a good contigency plan. Secondly, your
motto is not catchy enough. I'll keep working on it; maybe something with
Bryan in mind.

 

[wms]

>And which of our fellow employees lost everything? I don't know any.<

There is a list on MJs desk of about 35 pilots that are still not heard from.

The FO I flew with yesterday lived in New Orleans. She hasn't been able to get to her home, but a neighbor told her there is nothing left. I was surprised she was at work, but like she said, hanging around moping won't help.

 

[kikejavy]

Is everyone accounted for?

 

[wms]

I think all of the ASA people at the GPT station have checked in, but I'm not sure about all of the commuters.