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CMHTroll-

I have to go and fly the pledge now...

Your words mean nothing to a dedicated union brother...

So to all Trolls I say this-


AMF
 
It is time for you to take a poll and look closely at your numbers. It ain't 5% anymore. It is closer to 35% and growing everyday. Before long it will be 51% and you will be in the minority. Who knows, they just might decide that the foolish behavior of your MEC is getting them nowhere. But it sounds like you are getting the messageand starting to understand what the reality of the situation really is. So we will just wait and see how you do at the table. After all Monkey, that is what counts if you want anything to change for you.
Like we could ever believe statistics from a desk driving incompetent.
 
A troll posted:

It is closer to 35% and growing everyday. Before long it will be 51% and you will be in the minority.

Please enlighten us on how you came by these scientific numbers of yours. I would say that is one heck of an increase. By the looks of things so far this week, I'd say we're a lot closer to 1%.

Having fun yet boys? It will probably not get much better.
 
gutshotdraw said:
Once again, GV is on the mark and for the sake of all involved, I hope the GD scenario comes to pass.

Meanwhile, Hogprint, the productivity question you have relates to the fact that NJI pilots have no bypass pay, don't get paid extra for long days, don't get paid extra for being called out early, don't get 21 straight days off for a vacation three times a year (as a 7-7 holder at NJA does), 50 % work 6-5 schedules etc. etc. These are just a few of the contract items that affect scheduling and finance at a union shop versus a non-union one.

NJI is currently crewed at 5.7 pilots per aircraft and aircraft utilization runs just shy of 100 hours per month. Do you have the NJA numbers handy? Can't speak to utilization over there but my rough division shows more than 6 pilots per aircraft at NJA. THAT is higher productivity.

If I'm not mistaken (I'm sure I'll be corrected if I'm wrong) the bypass pay was implemented because of the seat lock issue. I wasn't here at the time of those negotiations so I won't go into the politics of that.

We ALL should get paid overtime for any time over 10 hours (for us it's now 12). Why they don't I have no clue.

In the interest of fair disclosure NJA only gets the 21 days off for vacation 3 times a year after you go over 6 year pay.

I'm not privy to the utilization charts, but there are enough middle and upper management types that troll on here, and they would be more than happy to give you those numbers.
 
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We ALL should get paid overtime for any time over 10 hours (for us it's now 12).
Why they don't I have no clue.
Why you ask? The 5 former members of the MEC who epitomize corruption. It all starts from the top and Dave V. was the furthest in the pocket!
 
Fracster said:
Why you ask? The 5 former members of the MEC who epitomize corruption. It all starts from the top and Dave V. was the furthest in the pocket!

One reason why they are the FORMER MEC. We kicked them out kicking and screaming. It was their extreme stupidity and underestimation of the pilots who they were supposed to be representing that got them kicked in the ass. Good riddance.
 
steel said:
Keep dreaming. It will be done. Just do all of us a favor. When you are over here and are someone's FO, just do your job and get the papers, ice, coffee, catering and clearance and let us know when it's done.

Repeat after me.....STAPLE, STAPLE, STAPLE

grasshopper--do you always emit negative energy? that is one nasty case of bad karma you have going there. you need to rely on yourself , instead of some union lawyer's mumbo jumbo. :)
 
I really couldnt give two sh!ts what happens to the NJI pilots. Staple, DOH, whatever. All I want is the Gulfstreams. There arent enough of them to make a huge difference in upgrading. Realisticly, their intergration would maybe slow someones upgrade by a few months.

I know I wont be here for it but I would love to see a picture of Richard Santulli the day the court system rules in favor of the single carrier lawsuit. Priceless. That a$$hole gives my people a bad name!
 
There hasn't been a single carrier filing in the past 30 years that has been successful!! And the IBT has not filed one yet! And RTS will not give NJI to NJA! So you are the one smoking rope here!!!
 

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