steel said:
Steel - welcome back...I didnt think you'd be back after you failed to respond to the questions I posed to you.
As for the additional perks for BB...give me some details. Are these included in the pay package total that the union is reporting or not? I assume you are not talking about his house here in Columbus, so what house are you talking about? Where is it located?
Now, while you are working on that, maybe you could get around to answering the questions that I posed to you....
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Originally Posted by steel
Next, as you would have known had you been here more than two years, we were indeed aware of what the pay was when we came here. We were also aware of what we were promised by RTS himself prior to you coming to this once great company. Ask around, do some research, and please get facts before trying to explain your very weak, union busting spun argument.
Ahh...the infamous RTS speech....so what figure did RTS promise you? (exact number please)
What figure did your union build it up to over the last 4 years?
It seems to me that you're the victim of inflated expectations.
I've watched people pump up the expected payday for the last 4 years on this board....to the point that any reasonable offer by the company is quickly scoffed at because it suffers in comparison to that 100% increase you've convinced yourselves that you deserve.
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Originally Posted by steel
Next, relevance should equal contributions expected. Example, pay should be commensurate with responsibility (read safety, customer service, fixing owner service's lies). This is where the management 101 books would help you. I seem to remember you barraging someone else on this board about missing class.
I'm glad you brought this up steel. If you had been paying attention you would realize that I addressed this topic just 3 short days ago in this post:
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Originally Posted by FamilyGuy
The overall point is that LIFE IS NOT FAIR. If we are going to pay all jobs according to levels of responsibility then in my opinion, none of us would make more money than teachers, police officers, and fire fighters. No athlete or CEO would make more money than the President of the United States. Our military would make more money than it does. The list is very long.......
Now...seeing as how our pilots average pay exceeds teachers, police officers, and firefighters, I'm sure you will be willing to live up to your own words and donate all of your excess salary to charity.....right?
Oh, and by the way, it also means you wont need that REASONABLE raise the company offered you....right?
I noticed you side-stepped the heart of my question in the original post, namely -
- What makes a 3 year employee think they are owed anything?
- Where does this sense of entitlement come from? They didnt build this company. They weren't here for the last contract. They weren't even here when it became amendable.
- Why should a 40+ year old company mortgage its future and cave into the demands of a bunch of 3 year employees that are just looking for a quick payday before they jump ship and try to bankrupt another company?
