CR-700 Displacements at ASA?

[e120pilot]

I think that's a trick question.

 

[Medeco]

HA!!!!

If I told you that, then I would never make it there in a semi reasonable time.

If you live in ATL ,as I do, then you have to plan on doing the concourse shuffle.

I have a duty in time of 0630 Sat. and will be leaving for the airport friday at 300pm to begin the commuter challenge.

I have a more difficult time than most because my hire date was Dec. of 2002. At least in terms of Delta direct to DFW.

In terms of jumpseating on the other airlines it depends on time of day and day of week, as to which one will have the open seats.

good luck!

 

[FmrFreightDog]

What is the best way to commute to DFW?

Drive.

 

[P38JLightning]

question for my candler bros...

As far as the CRJ-700 displacements go, is the company actually reducing system wide 70 seater Captain positions or is this just an ATL 70 Cpt reduction?

Despite the flame baiting rumors, official word here is still 29 70 seaters for each of us. It just appears they moved a lot to DFW (and the corresponding CPT positions with them) and along with the accelerated EMB retirements this is what caused the ATL displacements (though I could be wrong).

A similar thing happened at CMR when we retired the EMB. Before that time 50 seat RJ captain went as junior as 1.5 years, but when the EMB guys came to CVG it rapidly shot up to 3.5 or more and almost caused displacements. We managed to barely avoid that situation because we had abnormaly high attrition during the strike (you know, back when EVERYONE was hiring 60 a month with no end in sight).

It seems this could be what is causing the displacements in ATL rather than some lame attempt at union bashing by management. Plus y'all retired a lot more EMB's in a much, much shorter time period than we did, which would naturally be worse when it comes to displacements.

Sound plausable? Of course, if it really is a management salvo on the ASA pilot group then I think they're in for a rude awakening. We shall see.

P

 

[maxcackel]

There is a company post about the reason's for this above the fax machine in DFW op's. Something about what is going in in all three aircraft (atr.cr2,cr7). I just glanced at it so I can't quote sorry.

 

[btflyer2]

No news is bad news . . .

When were those next preliminaries due to come out, I believe it was for October?

Any other news out there?

 

[FL000]

11 displacements off the 700 in ATL. 9 to 200 capt and 2 to 700 fo. No resultant displacements will occur, and no one displaced out of domicile. These are preliminary notices.

 

[bailout]

There were some ATL CR2 Cpts that got moved back to FO, and several DFW Emb Cpt that got moved to RJ FO due to the displacements.

 

[FL000]

There were some ATL CR2 Cpts that got moved back to FO, and several DFW Emb Cpt that got moved to RJ FO due to the displacements.

Those were the resultant displacements that were cancelled. On the new prelims posted yesterday (superceding the one from Monday) there were no resultant displacements.

 

[e120pilot]

bailout-

There have been no ATL CR2 Captain diplacements. Of the 11 CR7 Captains that were displaced on the Oct. Prelim, only 9 could hold CR2 Captain. The other 2 chose to go to CR7 FO versus AT7 CA. If the prelim holds true, no CR2 Captains will be displaced.

You are correct on the E120 diplacements; over 40 downgrades in DFW(E120 CA to CR2 FO).

Just the facts.

 

[CR7CAP]

I for one have changed my bid to AT7 Captain - not based on some individual's advice - but more importantly what aircraft I will be able to hold a hard line on the soonest. The fact that the company is footing the bill for another type rating doesn't bother me either.

 

[ReportCanoa]

Does anyone have a guess how many more might be displaced?

I'm bidding copilot and hoping for a new award within 6 months.

Does anyone have an opinion on whether or not the company will honor that? Or if its not a good idea. Thanks....

 

[ICU]

Re Bid pref

Either way you look at it it sucks

 

[~~~^~~~]

I for one have changed my bid to AT7 Captain - not based on some individual's advice - but more importantly what aircraft I will be able to hold a hard line on the soonest. The fact that the company is footing the bill for another type rating doesn't bother me either.

CR7CAP you are going to have to change your screen name. Prop trash is already taken... But there are reasons not to change your bid preference to the AT7.
The airplane will be gone by 2005, the leases run out and it will be replaced, probably by CRJ's if DAL can get scope relief (source Reed Business 8/4/03 interview with Buttrell).
You want to go through training at least twice more?
There is no pay differential between the AT7 and CR2, meaning they don't have to let you bid off the AT7
No one is retiring off the AT7, not in the numbers they are off the CR7 and CR2.
Hope you like VLD, MCN, ASV, CHA, MGM and CSG. Those are the only overnights except for the glamor super senior overnights in VPS.
The average AT7 leg is less than 45 minutes, the average turn time is around 2.0 hours (but scheduled for 50 minutes). Six legs of that stuff and you have put in a 14 hour day and have around 5.0 hours of pay to show for it. Even holding a schedule on the ATR aint that great. Not like a round trip to MMTY blocked to 6.0 hours plus.

Have fun.

P.S. Did I mention round dials, NDB holds (no kidding I've done them in AVL) and the APU is always deferred (oh that is right the airplane does not have them but the ATL rampers are great about getting you reliable GPU's that never shut down at night with a plane load of passengers. The FMS looks a lot like a Low Altitude chart and an RMI.

Have lots of fun.

 

[ICU]

From~~~^~~~
CR7CAP you are going to have to change your screen name. Prop trash is already taken... But there are reasons not to change your bid preference to the AT7........





On the other side of the coin, for those of us junior soon to be kicked off the CRJ700 Captins, its a good way of avoiding further displacements, and an added bonus of being able to bump back some of those oh so junior AT7 Captins who don't appreciate thier job any way, and feel as though they have a God given right to fly.

AS far as round dials and NDB holds are concerned that's the basic kind of stuff any pilot at ASA has a good grasp of, plus instead of holding, just stick the flaps and gear out and slow that lumbering giant down to a snails pace giving your self a comfortable 10- 15 minutes before you even reach a hold, in three years on the Brasilla I think I held only five times, six tops.

So go ahead and bid the giant of the prop world its not such a bad choice you can say your in an elite group of pilots and proudly get another type rating at the company's expense.

SAY YES TO THE ATR I know I will. (Training deptment the drinks are on me
Laterrrr....