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As a line pilot for CAL, I agree and welcome any "influence" UAL guys can give to those pilots who have not chosen to support their fellow pilots by wearing their pin.
I carry extra pins with me at all times. There is never a jumpseater or fellow crew member that does not leave without a pin.
Of course, a clicker or two can be a good thing!
yeah i am new to the industry with only 7 years as a ALPA member and I have a couple of gripes with the mentality being posted here (note that I hope to one day work for United as its been my goal since I was a flight instructor). I wear one pin, my US of A old glory flag! I do not wear my ALPA lanyard anymore since I got sick of it smacking me in the face because its elastic (not to mention it does not have a safety release). I have been looking for a great MN twins lanyard but have not found one. As for good union memeber, when Mesaba was on the verge of a strike in 04' I was told by our MEC Chairman that because I was in training and on probation that I would have to report to work at the traininig center, not too long after that statement I had a "good union member" who was being assigned watch duties at the training center that said he would slash my tires if "anyone" came to train while he was watching. He was wearing a pin and a lanyard. He was an idiot. Please do not think I am not supportive of our good union just because i do not wear a pin of your liking. I do not look down on you and treat you poorly because you do not wear a flag or served your country like I did. My three cents
Just wear the pin already!I don't like wearing any pins on my tie...looks ugly. Besides, sorry to let you know that you are wasting your time, the pin does not accomplish anything.
You guys should worry more about things that matter.
Wear the pin and show support of the group, the effort and the drive to restore this jacked up profession. Enough said!
It's a mixed group here. I've flown with guys who don't wear the pin; some are scabs, some are not. You have to understand, there are more than a handful of guys with scab mentality who are not technically scabs. I've also flown with scabs who claim to be the most unionistic(is that a word?) people at the company and have ALPA pins/stickers anywhere they can put it. Overall, this is one area that will improve with the merger; more real unionists, less company saviors.
This is exactly why I never wanted to work for UAL. You guys have a miserable work environment. Your work rules, ethics, and condescending attitudes are exactly what many of us (who have grown up) despise.
Do us a favor: keep doing what you're doing, and we will just laugh at you behind your back (I will laugh right in your face, chump).
The silliness of a tie pin and incessant fear mongering on pro-union vs. anti-union is icing on the cake for me - what a bunch of immature a$$wipes.
Yes....Question/statement for the Continental pilots. Over here on the UAL side of the operation, almost all of us (except out scabs and other non-members) wear our ALPA pin on our tie. In fact, if one sees a United pilot not wearing an ALPA pin on their tie, it's very likely he is a scab or non-member. Do you guys do the same?
Yes....
GMAFB. Sometimes I wear my military jet on my tie as opposed to my ALPA pin. Am I a scab? I didn't even know what a scab was until I got hired @ CAL (since I was instead deploying left and right flying fighters in the AD AF). You've got to get over this pin bullsh*t. Any scab can wear 10 ALPA pins but he's still a scab (and some do today). This relationship between a pin and being a scab is completely illogical.![]()