B777 said:You need a job? So am I, and so was the pilot that turned TSA down, and many others that will not take a position at Gjet.
You mean So do I, and so did the pilot...., right?
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B777 said:You need a job? So am I, and so was the pilot that turned TSA down, and many others that will not take a position at Gjet.
erj-145mech said:B777, you throw out the scab word, what is the definition of a scab?
GJ is not flying struck work. The pilots are unionized. ALPA doesn't have a monopoly on unions, not all pilots are represented by ALPA. The pilots are not crossing a lawful picket line. Trans States created GJ's to gain flight routes not available to TSA pilots due to scope clauses.
If you don't like GJ crews, so be it, but they are not scabs by definition. You need to learn a new vocabulary to express what you think that they are.
Flame suit on.
Yes, and hear is what he saidB777, you throw out the scab word,
Next you said this:First off, you may not consider Gjet to be a scab airline, or even fit the definition of that.
Wrong!! 4 Management pilots tried to certify the Teamsters before they were an actual airline. They do not have any representation and are at the whim of the company.The pilots are unionized
No it wasn't to gain "flight routes" it was to be able to operate aircraft with more than 50 seats. While G-jet was trying to write manuals and missed there operational date several times, Trans States Airlines flew thier "flight routes" for them for a month or so. They were new pairings that appeared and dissapeared for a month or so (not sure time frame). When they got the certificate, the flying went away from TSA and went to g-jet. "flight routes" can be flown by a 50 seat jet or a 70 seat jet.Trans States created GJ's to gain flight routes not available to TSA pilots due to scope clauses.
Before you start defending "them" you need to educate yourself on why g-jet was started and why TSA management decided to hire from off the street instead of letting the pilots that are already employed by them to fly the airplanes.You need to learn a new vocabulary to express what you think that they are
Flechas said:You mean So do I, and so did the pilot...., right?
UEJ500 said:Wrong!! 4 Management pilots tried to certify the Teamsters before they were an actual airline. They do not have any representation and are at the whim of the company.
blackbox said:question:
I dont know too much about Labor Unions but I was wondering what is the relationship like between ALPA and the Teamsters? Are they not both a part of AFL-CIO? Why would the Teamsters want to represent a group that ALPA is trying to get rid of?
arthompson said:Teamsters are not AFL-CIO. Also the picketing is informal, so there is no picket line since it's not a certfied lawful strike. If TSA strikes over the G-Jet issue it will be an unlawful job action per the Railway Labor Act. TSA will be with in it's rights to terminate those pilots.
This is not a defense of G-Jets, this is simply a statement of facts.