Congrats AWA MEC......................

[Bringupthebird]

So the 1/3 ratio works because you include the furloughees who WILL BYPASS THE E190. But their benefit comes when they get handed an Airbus CA slot that was formerly held by an AWA pilot.

The T/A should have DEMANDED that the furloughees accept recall to whatever is put in front of them, or ADIOS MUCHACHO!

 

[JetMonkey]

The west should have took the original offer from the east of 60/40.

Why, when the transistion agreement states that we were entitled to 50/50 for any growth flying.

 

[abefly]

Nor will you benefit at my expense.

Benefit, This merger has already screwed all of us at awa. Remember we were hiring 300 a year and growing. You were, Im guessing, On the street. No furloughed pilot has ever bumped an active pilot. Why do you think this will be diferent?

 

[xanderman]

Huh????????

Actually, there is. It's called the Transition Agreement and the Company signed it.

Dude are you serious!?!?!?!? The company has and will continue to tell us to "grieve it" when ever it doesn't fit their plan. C'mon man time to grow a pair and stand up for yourself. Only we can change things in this awful mess.

 

[vetrider]

Benefit, This merger has already screwed all of us at awa. Remember we were hiring 300 a year and growing. You were, Im guessing, On the street. No furloughed pilot has ever bumped an active pilot. Why do you think this will be diferent?

Bumping an active pilot is not the same as coming in off furlough above an active pilot on the list. I think it is entirely possible that that the furloughees may come back to a spot that is part of a figured slotting ratio. I'll leave out the editorial, I just think that it is possible.

 

[GOTAFLY]

I was under the impression that AWA has Approx.1800 Pilots and AAA about 2400 if you round down. With that said there is a differance of 600 which is approx 1/3 more pilots on the AAA side not including those f type. So bubbadog I dont see were you think that the unemployed guys were concidered in the 2/3 1/3 split in the 190 arbitration.

 

[TWA Dude]

Dude are you serious!?!?!?!?

Yes.

The company has and will continue to tell us to "grieve it" when ever it doesn't fit their plan. C'mon man time to grow a pair and stand up for yourself. Only we can change things in this awful mess.

Oooh, strong words. Exactly what strong action(s) will extricate us from this mess? We have mediation and arbitration coming up. Should we shout really strong words at Nicolau?
What we really need is strong leadership, a commodity lacking at most unions these days. Since you have a pair why don't you run for MEC Chairman?

 

[Bubba Dog]

Benefit, This merger has already screwed all of us at awa. Remember we were hiring 300 a year and growing. You were, Im guessing, On the street. No furloughed pilot has ever bumped an active pilot. Why do you think this will be diferent?

We will let the arbitrator decide.

 

[Bubba Dog]

I was under the impression that AWA has Approx.1800 Pilots and AAA about 2400 if you round down. With that said there is a differance of 600 which is approx 1/3 more pilots on the AAA side not including those f type. So bubbadog I dont see were you think that the unemployed guys were concidered in the 2/3 1/3 split in the 190 arbitration.

1853 AWA + 2422 AAA= 4275, approximately 44%

4275 Total + 1350(furloughed excluding those who have by passed)= 5625

1853 divided by 5625= 33%

The arbitrator has now defined "fair and equitable" for the seniority integration.

As Forest Gump says "thats all I have to say about that".

I am tired of this point, counterpoint, this could go on forever,so let's just all agree to disagree and let the arbitrator decide. I'm through.

 

[BeCareful!]

I am tired of this point, counterpoint, this could go on forever,so let's just all agree to disagree and let the arbitrator decide. I'm through.

Phew! It's about time. Bubba, I think you suffer from a toxic case of wishful thinking.

Even if by some chance you are right, what good does it do to blather on and on about your arbitration theories here?