Coming up on 94 hours of Standby for the Month.

[atpcliff]

Hi!

At my "airline" I was told we are paid to be available, which is a lot like the frac situation sometime.

94 hours of STBY for the month?

I knew a guy, really well, who once had 240 hours of STBY in 10 days!!!

cliff
YIP

 

[kman]

yeah, but was he in the fbo or crew lounge for those 240 hours?

 

[atpcliff]

Hi!

Yeah, that's true, it wasn't the crew lounge.

It was the Holiday Inn in OKC next to the club with the indoor bull riding on Fri nights.

cliff
YIP

 

[sitnresrv]

Websters:

Definition of immature child who can't take criticism = kman

you just have to get in the last word don't you, pathetic, unless you still attend middle school.

 

[kman]

hey in the words of my peers, STFU.

 

[hyflyin]

Websters:

Definition of immature child who can't take criticism = kman

you just have to get in the last word don't you, pathetic, unless you still attend middle school.

:laugh:

 

[hyflyin]

hey in the words of my peers, STFU.

Shhhhhh, calm down little one.

 

[sitnresrv]

Websters:

Child = kman

Typical responses of children = hey in the words of my peers, STFU.

 

[kman]

Webster, Definition of sitnresrv: adj; noun;

somebody has there panties all bunched up.

A person who can't take any criticism against NJA.


You know if you read the whole thread, you realize by all the guys who can't stand anybody saying anything bad about nja. Who can't take any criticism? The STFU comment was referring to all of the mature comments made to me earlier in this thread. Try reading the whole thing.

Immature huh? Guess calling me a child and pathetic, is sooooo mature. You to sir are a true professional. I have no problem debating or even arguing about the subject in question, but just insulting me and calling me names shows what type of person you truly are.

 

[Ultra Grump]

:bawling:

 

[sitnresrv]

Websters:

there - –adverb 1.in or at that place (opposed to here): She is there now. 2.at that point in an action, speech, etc.: He stopped there for applause. 3.in that matter, particular, or respect: His anger was justified there. 4.into or to that place; thither: We went there last year. 5.(used by way of calling attention to something or someone): There they go. 6.in or at that place where you are: Well, hi there. –pronoun 7.(used to introduce a sentence or clause in which the verb comes before its subject or has no complement): There is no hope. 8.that place: He comes from there, too. 9.that point. –noun 10.that state or condition: I'll introduce you to her, but you're on your own from there on. –adjective 11.(used for emphasis, esp. after a noun modified by a demonstrative adjective): Ask that man there. –interjection 12.(used to express satisfaction, relief, encouragement, approval, consolation, etc.): There! It's done.



their - 1 : of or relating to them or themselves especially as possessors, agents, or objects of an action <their furniture> <their verses> <their being seen>


didn't they go over this in class today kman?

 

[kman]

Well guess you got me on the grammar u win! Guess im too fatigued from all that standby.

Just like all the other spelling Nazis, you avoid the orginal topic.

BTW your copy and paste skillz from the internet are amazing.

 

[kman]

:bawling:

 

[-FlyAuburn-]

Sitting standby 12 hours a day at TEB sucks, yes. However if you have kids like me, the quiet time to read, surf the net, snooze, or whatever the hell else I want to do is GREAT when you've been running around like a chicken without a head for a week. I'm just thankful to have a job. Does this mean I agree with everything that scheduling does and that it doesn't piss me off sometimes? No and No. However, they do have their reasons most of the time. Just be glad that you have a job!

 

[Schrode]

I agree. Make the best of any time you have - anywhere! My wife would love to switch with me! She only needs one of those pesky ATP thingys.

 

[Diesel]

Sitting standby 12 hours a day at TEB sucks, yes. However if you have kids like me, the quiet time to read, surf the net, snooze, or whatever the hell else I want to do is GREAT when you've been running around like a chicken without a head for a week. I'm just thankful to have a job. Does this mean I agree with everything that scheduling does and that it doesn't piss me off sometimes? No and No. However, they do have their reasons most of the time. Just be glad that you have a job!

Heck be glad you have a lounge chair, or be glad they put you in a hotel, or be glad they give you food, or be glad you get 10hrs.

Please get real....

 

[172driver]

Smoke,

I have noticed a big difference in philosophy lately from your department. Spent a couple days on duty at home and went home early one tour. It's not going unnoticed. Because of that, I am more rested and have a better attitude when the red-eyes or the multiple five leg days come up.

 

[Diesel]

I have noticed a big difference in philosophy lately from your department. Spent a couple days on duty at home and went home early one tour. It's not going unnoticed. Because of that, I am more rested and have a better attitude when the red-eyes or the multiple five leg days come up.

Shocking if you treat us like humans and adults not robots and idiots amazing things can happen.

 

[kman]

I agree, 100%. 400 sounds like a nice fleet to be in.

 

[soccer.1860]

It's just the typical 400 FO sitting at home while they continue to use Capt/capt pairings. I wonder why I haven't seen any of this benefit in the 400 fleet?

 

[Helmsalee]

Check out the new gym at First in TEB. Nice, with towels and showers too.

 

[-FlyAuburn-]

Heck be glad you have a lounge chair, or be glad they put you in a hotel, or be glad they give you food, or be glad you get 10hrs.

Please get real....

I get your point, but disagree. It's typical for pilots that have gotten "comfortable" at a job to have your attitude. This isn't meant to discredit what you went through at NJ when it wasn't so great, I've heard all about it and I understand, but it isn't that way anymore for the most part.

The rest of the job market for pilots is fu(*&! I guess I should have said: just be glad you have a job with such a great company! Others would kill to have this job!

 

[kman]

Just because the job market is cr@p doesn't mean we can't strive for more qol at work.

How have things changed since diesel left?

It wasn't that long ago was it? I've only been here 3.5 years, but qol at work has gotten a lot worse from my point of view.

 

[-FlyAuburn-]

Just because the job market is cr@p doesn't mean we can't strive for more qol at work.

How have things changed since diesel left?

It wasn't that long ago was it? I've only been here 3.5 years, but qol at work has gotten a lot worse from my point of view.

Specifically on what points and when did this trend start in your opinion?

 

[hyflyin]

Just because the job market is cr@p doesn't mean we can't strive for more qol at work.

How have things changed since diesel left?

It wasn't that long ago was it? I've only been here 3.5 years, but qol at work has gotten a lot worse from my point of view.

How did you vote on the last contract?

 

[kman]

As far as crew rot, min turns(overnights), and punitive scheduling. Progressively worse, but more so since the 07 IBB.

I voted no. I thought we were giving up too much.

 

[-FlyAuburn-]

I will say, there does see some punitive scheduling going on. Is that individual schedulers' issues or is that some orders from the top? I've wondered.

We broke the other day and had to pass the flight on to the backup crew and plane. They sent us to the hotel around 2 in the afternoon and shut us down and then gave us a 3 a.m. show at EJM in LUK. For what? There was no one there to back up and no trips scheduled. They ended up shooting themselves in the foot because a trip popped up and we didn't have the duty time to do it.

Luckily, this isn't the norm.

 

[ArtVandalay]

WE get to stay in the hotel at Flexjet for your scenario. Quit and come work for us if you don't like sitting in the FBO....

 

[realityman]

KMAN, what fleet are you in? Come on over to the X! Since IBB passed, I've only had to show before 1000 AM on day 1 three times so far!! Of course, this is a bit of a problem if you'd prefer the day 1 overtime, but as far as I'm concerned, it's been great!! I'd rather sleep in and do some running in the morning before heading off to work, rather than get the extra money but be half-asleep before I even get to the airport.

Flying has been a little slow this summer, but I don't recall having to hang around FBO's for more than six hours at a time. And seen a surprising amount of hotel show too.

So come on over!! (just remember that this fleet will be taking an extra hard a**-whooping as we move into busy season. Always does.)

 

[kman]

No thank you, upgrades looking at least another 2 years at least(5 years total). Couple away from G FO. I rather sit and wait over there and come back later. Thanks for the offer.