Comair's New President/Other Questions

[tiffanytaylor]

Comair's new President, John Bendoraitis, was announced today. He was the President of Compass.

I wonder if this means Comair will be merged with Compass/Mesaba?

Every new President that comes in is given the task of 'making our costs competitive'. We are pretty much as far down as we can get. More pay-cuts?

Why is Mesaba hiring and Comair furloughing?

If Delta plans to "kill" Comair, I wish they'd just do it and get it over with. I feel like I'm dying a slow and painful death at this company. I hope Comair has a future. We give more and more and more and keep getting less. We saved $30 million this year under Selvaggio and that wasn't enough.

If Mesa goes under will we get some of their flying and some 70s and 90s back? or will Delta just continue taking pleasure in watching us squirm?

 

[crj567]

I have no crystal ball, but the Comair guys really would have a lot more friends if they were not such tools after 9-11.....

The union prevented Comair from hiring any of the DAL furlough pilots for some reason I could never understand. If a guy is on furlough and wants to go to the bottom of the list as a new hire, who would care?

I know there are lots of good people at Comar, but your union did a horrible thing back then, and when they need help, they won't find a lot of buddies at mainline.....

-That was not smart.
-These days we all need every buddy we can find.

 

[DX Rick]

If Mesa goes under will we get some of their flying and some 70s and 90s back? or will Delta just continue taking pleasure in watching us squirm?

they'll go to Mesaba like all the others.
Word on the street is that DAL sent those 900's to Mesaba because DAL has to flip the bill for Comair to go through differences, where Mesaba pays for their own.

 

[tiffanytaylor]

I was told that by the pilots here.

 

[PuffDriver]

they'll go to Mesaba like all the others

I think that you are right. The furloughees, the ones who had nothing to do with the events of the RJDCers, will be assimilated into the other carriers with little hesitation.

 

[tiffanytaylor]

so is a merger with Mesaba likely?

they'll go to Mesaba like all the others

 

[DX Rick]

so is a merger with Mesaba likely?

no clue, doubt it
I'm guessing JS had enough of DAL

 

[Caveman]

I have no crystal ball, but the Comair guys really would have a lot more friends if they were not such tools after 9-11.....

The union prevented Comair from hiring any of the DAL furlough pilots for some reason I could never understand. If a guy is on furlough and wants to go to the bottom of the list as a new hire, who would care?

I know there are lots of good people at Comar, but your union did a horrible thing back then, and when they need help, they won't find a lot of buddies at mainline.....

-That was not smart.
-These days we all need every buddy we can find.

Once again the lie is retold and the urban legend of Comair pilots screwing the Deltoids continues.

The policy about requiring seniority resignation was and still is Comair management policy, not Comair MEC policy. The Deltoids could have told their company (DAL) to tell the wholly owned management to change the policy, but they didn't. In fact they didn't ask for help from DAL management nor Comair management. Instead they demanded that the Comair MEC get it changed. Let's not forget, they wanted a special exemption for DAL pilots. Comair's management policy has always been that ALL newhires resign their seniority at their prior employment.

Granted, the Comair MEC didn't do anything towards getting the policy changed, but that's a far cry from actively torpedoing the idea either. Seniority resignation is a pretty standard industry policy. There were plenty of other pilots furloughed at the time applying to Comair and the policy was applied consistently. Why did the Deltoids think they should be treated differently? Remember, according to them Comair and DAL were separate entities.

In retrospect could JC have been at least willing to broach the idea with Comair management? I guess. A little goodwill goes a long way. There has always been bad blood between some DAL pilots and some CMR pilots, but the legend that Comair pilots actively fought against the DAL furloughees is patently false.

 

[tiffanytaylor]

no clue, doubt it
I'm guessing JS had enough of DAL

What is your or anyone's best guess about Comair's future then? Since Compass' past President is now our President it just seems like they may be headed towards Northwest's wholly-owned subsidiaries and Delta's merging into one?

 

[flyboyike]

What is your or anyone's best guess about Comair's future then? Since Compass' past President is now our President it just seems like they may be headed towards Northwest's wholly-owned subsidiaries and Delta's merging into one?

One would think that would be the logical next step. But then this is the airline business.

 

[Flyprdu]

Looks like Comair did get those 15 Freedom jets after all.

 

[DX Rick]

What is your or anyone's best guess about Comair's future then??

It's going to be miserable here for a while...if not for good.
I think the writing on the wall can't get any more clear.
DAL has said that the 50 seaters have saturated the system, and they're doing away with them. DAL keeps handing the 900's to PCL and Mesaba.

Last time I flew, I saw 50's in remote, and another 10 or so parked over by the mx hangar with names removed.

I've been sending out resumes....getting out of this industry.

 

[DX Rick]

Looks like Comair did get those 15 Freedom jets after all.

say what?

 

[701EV]

CRJ567,

Obviously you don't know the history!

First off the Comair pilots were not tools!

How about the Delta MEC was the tool!

How about you blame Delta. Mgmt laughed everyday when they saw how the union was bickering over this. It was a Comair policy not to hire a pilot if you did not resign your seniority number, not the unions.

Learn some history before you open your mouth and insert foot!

701EV

 

[nellie2110]

I think he was saying that if comair merged with mesaba was the point he was getting at.

 

[Flyprdu]

Comair merges with Mesaba... Comair will eventually get those Freedom jets anyway.

 

[JECKEL]

crj567, you are an IDIOT!

"The union prevented Comair from hiring any of the DAL furlough pilots for some reason I could never understand. If a guy is on furlough and wants to go to the bottom of the list as a new hire, who would care?"

Once again, an IDIOT, knows not what he speaks of.

No one, and I mean no one, prevented Delta furloughed pilots from being hired at Comair.

It was all about the resignation of the Delta pilot's seniority number with DAL.

Comair Management policy is for a newhire to give up his/her seniority at his/her previous carrier.

The Comair MEC was asked to change or help change the policy for Delta furloughees. For some unknown or stupid reason the Comair MEC were jerks about it and turned down the Delta Union folk.

The Comair MEC were complete asses about the whole thing but at no time did they, or any else at Comair, "prevent" Delta furloughed pilots from being hired.

crj567, you are an IDIOT!

 

[tiffanytaylor]

I went back on reserve after 6 years here as an f/a. I expect it'll last indefinitely since we're furloughing more f/as next year.

I wonder why we didn't get the United flying JS talked about. It must be our costs. We might as well get rid of cookies too, all sodas and juices, and reduce to peanuts and water. That would save a TON of $. Apple juice is gone which will upset mothers with children. Gingerale is gone and that's popular too esp. with upset stomachs. Tomato juice is gone but not too many pax care about it that much I guess.

Thanks for the input.

 

[nellie2110]

Comair merges with Mesaba... Comair will eventually get those Freedom jets anyway.

Still doesn't make sense, because if comair merges with mesaba, then mesaba still has the 900's and comair no longer is around as comair.

 

[Full of LUV]

Completely Revisionist....

Once again the lie is retold and the urban legend of Comair pilots screwing the Deltoids continues.

The policy about requiring seniority resignation was and still is Comair management policy, not Comair MEC policy. The Deltoids could have told their company (DAL) to tell the wholly owned management to change the policy, but they didn't. In fact they didn't ask for help from DAL management nor Comair management. Instead they demanded that the Comair MEC get it changed. Let's not forget, they wanted a special exemption for DAL pilots. Comair's management policy has always been that ALL newhires resign their seniority at their prior employment.

Granted, the Comair MEC didn't do anything towards getting the policy changed, but that's a far cry from actively torpedoing the idea either. Seniority resignation is a pretty standard industry policy. There were plenty of other pilots furloughed at the time applying to Comair and the policy was applied consistently. Why did the Deltoids think they should be treated differently? Remember, according to them Comair and DAL were separate entities.

In retrospect could JC have been at least willing to broach the idea with Comair management? I guess. A little goodwill goes a long way. There has always been bad blood between some DAL pilots and some CMR pilots, but the legend that Comair pilots actively fought against the DAL furloughees is patently false.

Completely revisionist...... Karma is a Biatch......
ASA hired furloughs......
Eagle hired furloughs.....
Skywest hired furloughs.....
Even Mesa hired furloughs......
I'm sure more did, but ONLY COMAIR required resignation from a mainline list to work at the bottom of theirs. Well so be it, unfortunately for them, the affected guys were in their 30's, so the DAL will remember for at least another 30 years or so......