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Sorry General, but yet again your ignorance shines through.
How can someone who claims to be all knowing of every aspect of Delta, and be so concerned over the well being of the furloughed Delta pilots, not know that there are Delta pilots flying for Comair.

ASA, yes. Comair, yes. General Lee, urgh.

Good goes around, but ignorance seems to just hang around.

Bye Bye, Weirdo
 

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cmrflyer said:
Sorry General, but yet again your ignorance shines through.
How can someone who claims to be all knowing of every aspect of Delta, and be so concerned over the well being of the furloughed Delta pilots, not know that there are Delta pilots flying for Comair.

ASA, yes. Comair, yes. General Lee, urgh.

Good goes around, but ignorance seems to just hang around.

Bye Bye, Weirdo

Oh, darn, you got me. Two people work at Comair. I feel sorry for them. I wish they would have gone to ASA where they wouldn't have to put up with so much attitude. I really don't know where every furlough has gone, and there is no list that contains that. I do what I can and contribute to their Cobra, I sponsor a few, and I hope they come back. It really isn't up to me. If it were, they would be back by now, and I would also try to hire as many ASA and CHQ pilots as we could. That's if it were up to me, again. Have a great one.


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All this talk about Delta pilots working at CMR needs to stop. If the current amount of Delta pilots working for CMR does not please you, then YOU need to ask the DELTA pilots why they are not working at CMR. The reason why I say this, is there are currently NO restrictions keeping them from coming to CMR. Unless ofcourse they cannot hack the training.

CMR currently is having problems filling classes due to no shows and other reasons. If they WANT to work here, then they are welcome. But the fact is, that very few DELTA pilots actually WANT to work at CMR.
 

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All this talk about Delta pilots working at CMR needs to stop. If the current amount of Delta pilots working for CMR does not please you, then YOU need to ask the DELTA pilots why they are not working at CMR. The reason why I say this, is there are currently NO restrictions keeping them from coming to CMR. Unless ofcourse they cannot hack the training.

CMR currently is having problems filling classes due to no shows and other reasons. If they WANT to work here, then they are welcome. But the fact is, that very few DELTA pilots actually WANT to work at CMR.

You must be new. Maybe you haven't heard about the back stabbing from Comair to our new furloughs after 9-11, even after we all (all of ALPA) helped pay for their strike. I just talked to a Delta Captain that was in the ALPA strike center during your Comair strike. He said your MEC Lawson was getting paid (by ALPA) a 100 hour gurantee for RJ Captain PLUS the strike benefits, and would not negotiate with Delta at all. Finally, Duane Worthless had to call him up and say "If you don't negotiate, we will drop you tomorrow." He listened and finally gave in after costing Delta $1 billion. This Delta Captain said Lawson was a total tool. Then, Lawson has the gall to ask for more 70 seaters when our guys were in trouble.

I am glad I have given you a history lesson. And, I think most Delta guys who actually WANT to work would pass your ground school-----your 400 hour wonders from Sanford do it everyday. I would tell anyone to go to ASA or CHQ first.


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General Lee,


I wish ill will on nobody, except maybe you sometimes. You are an arrogant ass that "self-graduated" to a position that was, in your mind, above the "little people" for a while. It made you nothing but boastful and pompous...and probably fat. However, now things have changed. You continue to clown this board so you can read about yourself, and think you are still above everyone here. "We raised the bar"? You really think that? Let's see you raise the bar again this fall! You are a POS. What comes around goes around GL. Reap it. What? Tool.
 

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IB6 UB9 said:
General Lee,


I wish ill will on nobody, except maybe you sometimes. You are an arrogant ass that "self-graduated" to a position that was, in your mind, above the "little people" for a while. It made you nothing but boastful and pompous...and probably fat. However, now things have changed. You continue to clown this board so you can read about yourself, and think you are still above everyone here. "We raised the bar"? You really think that? Let's see you raise the bar again this fall! You are a POS. What comes around goes around GL. Reap it. What? Tool.


Good goes around, right? Oh yeah. And look at you----talk about arrogant. Maybe you don't know much about the Delta/Comair riff----or the emotions that most of us felt, even though we weren't furloughed. So, you can stay out of it until you know the facts. And, you think I am fat? Huh? Ummm no. I am in great shape. I work out in between posts.

And, you have the audacity to say we didn't raise the bar or create a benchmark for other people to strive for? You guys created a really low bar for 100 seaters. Thanks. You probably think we Delta pilots are responsible for our woes too. Yeah, I sold the fuel hedges too. Riiight. You guys set a low bar (even for a regional), and we set one that we all should be aiming for. But, maybe YOU aren't worth it. Nah, you aren't. You are the POS. Dumba$$.

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General Lee said:
You must be new. Maybe you haven't heard about the back stabbing from Comair to our new furloughs after 9-11, even after we all (all of ALPA) helped pay for their strike. I just talked to a Delta Captain that was in the ALPA strike center during your Comair strike. He said your MEC Lawson was getting paid (by ALPA) a 100 hour gurantee for RJ Captain PLUS the strike benefits, and would not negotiate with Delta at all. Finally, Duane Worthless had to call him up and say "If you don't negotiate, we will drop you tomorrow." He listened and finally gave in after costing Delta $1 billion. This Delta Captain said Lawson was a total tool. Then, Lawson has the gall to ask for more 70 seaters when our guys were in trouble.

I am glad I have given you a history lesson. And, I think most Delta guys who actually WANT to work will pass your ground school-----your 400 hour wonders from Sanford do it everyday.


Bye Bye--General Lee

First off, no I am not "new." Thank you for your offer of YOUR version of an history lesson. I find it a bit amusing how you try to manipulate the truth to somehow support your point. BTW what is your point?? How does that in any way explain why numerous Delta pilots have passed the opportunity to go to CMR?

Unlike you sir, I have no interest in getting into a pissing contest. I have no doubt, that the average Delta guy won't have a problem getting through training. The point is that it is THEIR choice why they are not working at CMR. I say again, if they want to work at CMR, the door is open.
 

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Oh, darn, you got me. Two people work at Comair. I feel sorry for them. I wish they would have gone to ASA where they wouldn't have to put up with so much attitude. I really don't know where every furlough has gone, and there is no list that contains that. I do what I can and contribute to their Cobra, I sponsor a few, and I hope they come back. It really isn't up to me. If it were, they would be back by now, and I would also try to hire as many ASA and CHQ pilots as we could. That's if it were up to me, again. Have a great one.


Bye Bye---General Lee

La Genitalia,
Try to imagine if you were born 5 years later and happened to work for Comair in the late 90s. You would have been dreaming of working for Delta but due to 9/11, would have been kept at your CA position at a DL feeder. Please remember, the ONLY reason why you are at DAL is because of the 'roaring 90s' and the fact that Plato decided to appease more of the commuter pilots. If more military pilots were available to be hired, your screen name would be Surplus2.
 

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Well, if you are not new, then you should have an idea why many aren't at your airline. The majority of furloughs that are still out there are working elsewhere, and may never come back. The rest that have come back are very busy, since 2000 Captains have left in one year.


My point about Lawson and his screw ups while he was making quite a bit of money at our (DL's) expense is that he also flubbed the initial offer to HELP our people, just like we (along with others) helped him and your pilots. ASA and CHQ offered help without strings attached, and Lawson did not. Because of his requests, a lot of our furloughs stayed out longer and suffered more. I don't blame them not wanting to go to work for Comair. That is the reason.


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I do have an idea, and I agree with you about the initial offer. However that is no longer the case. Bottom line is if they want, need the job, it's there. Enough complaining why we don't have more on property. That is in their control NOW.
 

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La Genitalia,
Try to imagine if you were born 5 years later and happened to work for Comair in the late 90s. You would have been dreaming of working for Delta but due to 9/11, would have been kept at your CA position at a DL feeder. Please remember, the ONLY reason why you are at DAL is because of the 'roaring 90s' and the fact that Plato decided to appease more of the commuter pilots. If more military pilots were available to be hired, your screen name would be Surplus2.

Good changing of my name---that was really good---not. ASA never allowed direct entry Captains, but atleast they offered our guys jobs with no strings attached. After 9-11 a lot of people and planes were parked, and you guys at Comair actually grew (helping us lose more money).(Airtran and Jetblue used mainline planes on their routes---and grew) And, I didn't deserve to be hired at Delta in the roaring 90's? You have no clue what you are talking about. We have many non military guys--mostly Ex Westerns and some Pan Ams (now gone)---that made up a large chunk of the pilots---even in the early 90s. You knew that, right?


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I do have an idea, and I agree with you about the initial offer. However that is no longer the case. Bottom line is if they want, need the job, it's there. Enough complaining why we don't have more on property. That is in their control NOW.

If our furloughed guys want to go to Comair, then they should. The reason a lot aren't there is because of the situation I have described.

Bye Bye--General Lee
 

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By the way General, I heard this story from a Delta captain, that he was in the toilets of E terminal and overheard these two guys talking about how once apon a time your MEC and Worth said "blah blah blah....."

When are you going to grow up and stop making crazy accusations about what your (soon to be retired) captain told you in an alcohol enduced rant on some over night in BFE (one of your better overnights).

Bye, Bye- Lee. You wanker.
 

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Seems to me that if the two sides would agree to a FLOW-THROUGH policy for w/o pilots, mainline guys could flow back. U.S. Air laughed in our face when we suggested that, but they still wanted their 2 year F-100 f/o's to displace 10 year regional captains at the w/o.
 

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In my opinion, DAL Alpa really dropped the ball. If they worked with ASA and Comair to keep flying in house, no one would be on the street. No one at ASA nor Comair would be displaced. There are more than enough jobs that CHQ, Skywest, A Eagle and now Freedom are taking.
 

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cmrflyer said:
By the way General, I heard this story from a Delta captain, that he was in the toilets of E terminal and overheard these two guys talking about how once apon a time your MEC and Worth said "blah blah blah....."

When are you going to grow up and stop making crazy accusations about what your (soon to be retired) captain told you in an alcohol enduced rant on some over night in BFE (one of your better overnights).

Bye, Bye- Lee. You wanker.

Were you in there cleaning the toilets? I thought that was you. Why don't you ask Lawson if he was paid 100 hours plus the Strike benefits while you guys got only the benefits? He didn't care---he was getting paid more than usual. And I could give you the Captain's name (he is 49, not old enough to take the lump sum) I talked to and you can see for yourself if he worked at the ALPA strike center in ATL. But hey, you don't care..... He said Lawson was a tool. That made me laugh. But, I already knew that. And, we stay in BFE? What? You guys fly to those cities. On the next bid I will get the 764--so Honolulu should be next for me. Come jump on us sometime----ALOHA.

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In my opinion, DAL Alpa really dropped the ball. If they worked with ASA and Comair to keep flying in house, no one would be on the street. No one at ASA nor Comair would be displaced. There are more than enough jobs that CHQ, Skywest, A Eagle and now Freedom are taking.


You could have gotten that, but Comair went for the pay after the strike. You really have no scope. We have scope and you guys were trying to break that (Lawson), and now you guys see the effects of not having it (CHQ, MESA). That is what is so funny here---you could have gotten scope but you did not, and now you really are paying for it. Sad but true.


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That is what is so funny here---you could have gotten scope but you did not, and now you really are paying for it. Sad but true.

Bye Bye--General Lee

In the past four years, Comair has grown tremendously. Delta mainline on the other hand has shrunken tremendously. Even worse, mainline is going to keep shrinking. Seems like your scope clause has failed pretty miserably.
 

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OK Lee, explain how Comair can scope flying that you keep on telling us is yours. Maybe we should have scoped you, and then had Mesa come in to do some of your (well i guess it might be "our") flying. I can't beleive we where so stupid. Those crazy Comair guys.

Next time around we will try to scope you, American and North West. Well scope everybody.

It was amazing, while i was cleaning those toilets of yours, Corporal Lee, I found something out.

Your SH1T really doesn't stink.

And we all thought you were making that up.
 

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Well dudes, our scope has stopped you from getting more 70 seaters (until now I guess) and kept many INTL codeshares to a minimum---we could have had one flight to Europe total and bought seats on all the other airlines I guess. We had approval of certain domestic codeshares (CAL/NW and Alaska), and kept 90 and 100 seaters out of your hands. I would say we got something out of our scope.


Medflyer,

Yes, you have grown tremendously----mainly in the 50 seat arena, which was allowed anyway. And, look at our stellar profits. Businessmen wanting our mainline service after 9-11 were met with mainly 50 seat RJs, and they went somewhere else. But, you have been full----of leisure travellers, paying the same fares as Airtran fares. All this growth from you guys and we have losses. The DFW base was mainly RJs, and it did worse than our mainline operation, with businessmen flocking to AA to avoid the long RJ flights. Oh yeah, it was our fault with our high paying contract..... You too man.


Cmrflyer,

You guys went for the money, and got most of it. But, you forgot about your own backyard. Now look at it. That was YOUR fault. Our scope helped us out for the most part----stopping you from getting too many 70 seaters and maybe bigger. You may get some more now, but you also might have the callsign "Air Shuttle." That might get interesting. You can go to bigger planes though--- I think they fly CR9s in PHX for AWA.

And as far as my shiznet, it really does stink. You are mad because I can retort any of your claims. Look, I know my views of the Comair debacle make you mad, but I am not against any one Comair pilot---I am just mad that our people were offered help with strings. The other airlines (ASA and CHQ) offered help, and Comair did with conditions. That will always be a sore spot for many.


Bye Bye--General Lee
 
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