comair to buy aca dojets

[RJPilott]

I heard that Delta will buy the FRJ's and give the option to ACA FRJ pilots to come with the FRJ's. My source also stated that Delta will work with DALPA to integrate ACA FRJ pilots on the Delta seniority list in order of direct seniority with no fences. This in order to get some DAL furloughees back since Comair wouldnt give pref. hiring.

 

[lowecur]

cappy

Now the day these message boards go to "facts only", then that's the day they will shut it down. Message Boards are filled with rumor, inuendo, and speculations.

Speaking of facts, maybe you could point to me where it was said ACAI will have the kind of money you are quoting. In everything I've read, the maximum they will have is close to $250M at the beginning of the 3Q/04.

As far as the 170 speculation, there have been many threads in the past 2 weeks on Chautauquas new TA, and the possibility of the 170 order. Will it happen? I don't know for sure, but you can't discount the possibility.

Incidently, if you care to go over to the ACAI board on CBS Marketwatch, you'll see a thread posted by Bob10e about the subject of Embraer being brought into negotiations by ACAI. Bob10e is a longtime AAI poster who has connections with Boeing. He has a high level of credibility, and it makes sense to me. If you don't buy it, so be it.

In any case don't let it keep you up at night.

 

[46Driver]

ACA pilots getting Delta seniority numbers in exchange for giving the Dorniers to mainline????? I'll believe that when pigs fly, no, when pigs are in space.... Come to think of it, I do remember the Muppet Show with "Pigs in Spaceeeee!" Who freakin' knows what is going to happen.

 

[HAZ-MAT]

Okay... the other day i saw an ACA crj with no UAL titles on it, and my buddy that flies for ACA said it was being used as a charter jet.. but then i saw a J-41 with the U titles missing... are you painting them over?? or was that another "charter" plane?

 

[Wacopilot]

RJPilott...uhhhhh, right.

Delta does own the FRJ's and has a leaseback deal with ACA. What I heard was that the airplanes will come to CMR...just the airplanes. That's the fresh word from the crewroom.

Go Bucs!

 

[General Lee]

RJpilot,

I just can't see Delta or Dalpa giving date of hire to ACA FRJ pilots, let alone use them on mainline. But, I do wish our furloughs could have the chance to fly them---but that also seems unlikely. Maybe they could fill in the gaps if some of the ACA guys stay with ACA. But, I doubt any of them would want to fly with the Comair pilots due to the "CRM" problems. Who knows?

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[asarjfo]

RJPilott...uhhhhh, right.

Delta does own the FRJ's and has a leaseback deal with ACA. What I heard was that the airplanes will come to CMR...just the airplanes. That's the fresh word from the crewroom.

Go Bucs!

We all know how much fun crew room news can be, but in a reality why would Delta continue to operate the airplane in light of the diffuculties in obtaining parts. It will only get worse, so cut your loses and move on.

Only time will tell

 

[Wacopilot]

We all know how much fun crew room news can be, but in a reality why would Delta continue to operate the airplane in light of the diffuculties in obtaining parts. It will only get worse, so cut your loses and move on.


Yea, Our CP and DO office is in our crew room......I understand the parts arguement, however it might be something along the lines of why they still operate the 737-200. They are the right size for the market and they are PAID FOR. You know, GeeLee is always talking about the massive debt that Delta has due to CMR expansion, this would get rid of some future debt at the hands of almighty CMR......they are paid for.

Food for Thought

 

[Patriot328]

Man you people can be some real uptight SOBs...


I have a strange feeling rjpilott was being, umm.. what's that word..




oh yeah...


SARCASTIC...


Y'all want the FRJs, you can have em... you'll be inheriting more problems than you can imagine..

I'm willing to bet we do more engine swaps a year on our 33 dorkjets than comair does on all of its CRJs, 50 and 70 seaters. Just wait til pratt's warranty wears out..

Don't worry.. when you're flying them and have a problem, just ask to talk to a Blueridge on frequency. Most of us can fix just about any problem with a little mojo....

I love my little bird and it's a good plane for the market it runs (more or less.. we're so full I think comair should be doing most of our flights with 40 seaters, but they didn't ask my opinion), but it is a maintenance hog and it's only going to get worse and they get pounded into the ground 10 times a day.

 

[RJPilott]

LOL..

Hey guys.... did i mention i had a bridge for sale? CHEAP!!

its in Brooklyn.. special deal for you Gen Lee.... but wont last long.....


i cant believe people even responded to that post.... too funny...

but i do remember hearing if Delta takes the FRJ's they will fill them with furloughed Delta pilots.... as they should.... Get some of our bro's back to work...

 

[smellthejeta]

Okay... the other day i saw an ACA crj with no UAL titles on it, and my buddy that flies for ACA said it was being used as a charter jet.. but then i saw a J-41 with the U titles missing... are you painting them over?? or was that another "charter" plane?

Those paint jobs are misnomers. It used to be that 685BR/691BR/701BR would do the charters (I think those three don't have the UAX paint jobs). However, lately, ACA has been using any bird they feel like for their charters.

As far as the J41's go, sometimes they do get pulled for charters, but only when they company is desperate. God, why would anybody want to pay to fly on one of those things when the FRJ can be chartered? I don't know why the tulips are being taken off, probably because those birds are getting ready for retirement.

 

[General Lee]

RJpilot,

Sold! Whatever you have to sell, I'm buying it!!!!


Whako,

The majority of our Capital expenditures for this year went to RJ purchases, and this hasn't been the best year for us. Other additions to our debt problem have been for Delta---like the BOS terminal expansion, and the JFK terminal too. I was just reminding everyone what we are actually paying for and the debt situation. Regardless, it will all be taken care of when we all get paycuts.

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[sabreliner]

Just to provide some perspective to the original subject, we at ASA are also hearing that the Doh Jets might come here if they dump ACA.

They are telling us that we are the best positioned right now to take them since we are overstaffed and our training dept is spooling down from the last of the Brasilia displacements.

Just goes to show, don't believe anything until they show up with your logo on them.

 

[RJPilott]

RJpilot,

Sold! Whatever you have to sell, I'm buying it!!!!



Bye Bye--General Lee

PM me for info.. i accept paypal


For those that think they are "overstaffed" or have a job and excited about getting more jets.. .think of your furloughed brethren.. I work for ACA. Last i want to see is us losing airplanes. But if we do, I certainly hope it gets some pilots off the street (ie. Furloughed Delta) Frothing at the mouth due to rumors is so unbecoming.

 

[FlyComAirJets]

ALPA has a wonderful fragmentation policy and has been known, on occasion, to use it. If a bunch of the Dorniers were to come the way of an ALPA carrier such as ASA or Comair, doesn't it stand to reason that the crews and support stafff would be offered the chance to go along with them?

Bids are out!