Class action on ASA pay?

[79%N1]

I audited 10 months of pay and got a couple grand out of it. Watch'em.

How did you audit it, and how did you get them to pay you?

 

[the palm]

How are you guys checking your pay. The audit email is a joke as it just says min day or block, etc. The crew time report on sked plus is also useless. What is the best way?

The audit email is a great tool for checking your pay. As long as you keep your own records its very easy to see where ASA screwed up when you compare each day. And I never even look at sked plus for my credits. Just my own record along with that email we get. It is a vast improvement from the old audit sheet we used to get that would just say, "Oops. We paid you too much and we're taking it back. Thanks."

 

[Freebrd]

skedplus a waste, compare what you flew each day with the audit email, then send a pay query, then send a company email to the CP about it, c opy Scotty and Brad :laugh:

 

[79%N1]

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[IFLYASA]

How are you guys checking your pay. The audit email is a joke as it just says min day or block, etc. The crew time report on sked plus is also useless. What is the best way?

At the end of each day, I write the credit amount for that day in my little black book and put a circle around it. Once we get the audit emails, I just scroll down and find any mistakes. I have caught thousands of dollars. On the bright side, sometimes I find mistakes in my "favor", but I fail to report it. I'm not an auditor and it's not my job to do that.

 

[Freebrd]

On the bright side, sometimes I find mistakes in my "favor", but I fail to report it. I'm not an auditor and it's not my job to do that.

true dat!

 

[COOPERVANE]

true dat!

Just curious. What is the ratio of mistakes you have seen? Are 90% in the companies favor?

 

[Freebrd]

Just curious. What is the ratio of mistakes you have seen? Are 90% in the companies favor?

My experience 99% of the time I get shorted, from a fraction of an hour up to 5-10 hours. And this has been going for years, many years. Those auditors are just plain incompetent and don't care if they screw up your pay. Why our pay statements don't break down our pay for credits po me too, such as ** hours for cancellation, **hours for DH, etc etc.

 

[IFLYASA]

Just curious. What is the ratio of mistakes you have seen? Are 90% in the companies favor?

9 times out of 10 I get shorted as oppose to getting overpaid. 100% of the time I am correct on what's owed to me. I always get the "Sorry" email from the auditors.

 

[looking_down]

They screw mine up every single month! One month, they shorted me nearly 30 hours and were rude when I called them to ask about what went wrong. They wouldn't even talk to me until I sent them a pay query.

A pay query should only be used to address a descrepency over a small issue, NOT 30 hrs! In any event, I spent at least 2 days dealing with their incompetence and doing their job for them. In the end, I finally got paid.

I fly with people all the time that say that they don't sweat a few hours here and there. Most of them don't even keep a log of their credit. That is so totally wrong. If you let them get away with cheating you month after month, it only furthers the problem for the entire pilot group. And the poor flight attendants........they don't have a clue how bad they are getting cheated.

 

[COOPERVANE]

If there were a PENALTY for screwing up our paychecks, it wouldnt happen anymore.

We need to ensure the next contract addresses pay issues, and provides for compensation for shortages.

 

[Freebrd]

If there were a PENALTY for screwing up our paychecks, it wouldnt happen anymore.

We need to ensure the next contract addresses pay issues, and provides for compensation for shortages.

wat he say :beer:

 

[LazyLightnin']

wat he say :beer:

It'll never happen, palmer.

 

[NotTooBad]

I'm really hoping this entire thread is a joke. If my union supports this complete waste of time I'll be a little perturbed. Yes they suck at pay but they do ultimately pay you in accordance with our CPA. What exactly are you suing for?

 

[sunlitpath]

If they overpay you by mistake, their auditors seem to find it in the blink of an eye; if they shorted you, it never gets brought to your attention and rectified.

That is a good point, and perhaps the greatest indictment of their payroll audit system. I have never received additional money in a check as a result of an error in my favor, nor do I know anyone else who has. Sched-Plus needs to be accurate at the close of each calendar day. If we find errors, we should receive a two hour override for the inconvenience. After paying so many potential penalties, it may force the I.T. department to write a decent payroll program; or we could just bleed them through litigation, as you suggest. It sounds good to me...