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[DO-82 driver]

OH....I get it....Cessna doesn't want to make money off of something they have invested millions in. Makes sense.

I guess it allows them to unload all those new, unsold airplanes that are roling off the assembly line instead of having them sit idle someplace.

 

[FRACTRASH]

DO-82 Driver, It just amazes me how smart you are. You managed to figure out exactly how CS runs there business. Stick to flying airplanes and leave running the business to the executives.

 

[DO-82 driver]

TRASH.....You missed theboat on that one. It was Bogey who gave us CS business model.

I'm just waiting for CS to post a profit.

 

[Fozzy]

Do-82,
I do HATE to admit it but Bogart has a point. Do you want the owners of a fractional contract seeing the company they are with showing a profit??? I would not if it was me. I would like to make a few million each year. Just over breaking even. If I started to see HUGE profits, I would think that I was getting hosed.

Anyways, I never believed any of the garbage numbers given out. We make money, I get it. Now just pay me.

 

[DO-82 driver]

Fozzy...I agree...I remember this topic coming up during the contract negotiations.

NetJets has turned a profit for 2 quarters now and I don;t see or hear of owners demanding their money back. They know they are getting the best survice in the industry and they like it alot!!!

I'm not saying a HUGE profit, but even a modest one means that monies can be used for expansion such as improvements to the overall operaitons for the sake of safety. (I am in no way saying CS has any type ofsafety problems)

As an owner I might be equally alarmed if I found out that the company flying me around is operating in the RED!!!! That brings on a whole different set of questions.

 

[blueridge71]

OH....I get it....Cessna doesn't want to make money off of something they have invested millions in. Makes sense.

I guess it allows them to unload all those new, unsold airplanes that are roling off the assembly line instead of having them sit idle someplace.

I was told that CS will be profitable by 2007, if not this year.

 

[DO-82 driver]

I hope they are...good for them.

Competition is a good thing for everyone involved.

 

[rickair7777]

Another question...

On this requirement that you live within 2 hours of one of their designated airports: Does that mean two hours per mapquest, or do they actually expect you to be at the gate in two hours? LAX is why I'm asking...thanks.

 

[ALSF 2]

mapquest your house to LAX, it must show under 2 hours.

That is all.

Cheers!

 

[Sparse]

Another question...

On this requirement that you live within 2 hours of one of their designated airports: Does that mean two hours per mapquest, or do they actually expect you to be at the gate in two hours? LAX is why I'm asking...thanks.

They will accept any map program. There are many and they don't all agree. I know of one guy that lives in SAN for the LAX base. I bet there are times of the day that drive takes 3 or more hours.

 

[Humphreybogart]

NetJets has turned a profit for 2 quarters now and I don;t see or hear of owners demanding their money back. They know they are getting the best survice in the industry and they like it alot!!!

Maybe second best service.

 

[shamrock]

So what are the rules about changing bases after you work at CS? I already live at one of the bases so I would stay for the time being, but I would certainly like to escape the hell that is ATL at some point down the road.

 

[Sparse]

So what are the rules about changing bases after you work at CS? I already live at one of the bases so I would stay for the time being, but I would certainly like to escape the hell that is ATL at some point down the road.

You just email your change. It's no big deal. The only requirment is that you be within 2 hours of one of the bases.

 

[DO-82 driver]

No Bogey....I didn't mis-speak.

NetJets offers the BEST service.... Not Maybe....Certainly!!!!

 

[FRACTRASH]

DO-82 driver, I was told owners like our yellow ties better. Therefor, we must provide better service then NJ. It's all in the color of the tie, you know.

 

[FRACTRASH]

Bogart, they just can't handle the truth.

 

[DO-82 driver]

If that's the case then what are the owners going to msay when I wear my Santa Clause tie......

You guys might actually get another raise because of something NJA guys do.

 

[Guitar rocker]

Bogart, they just can't handle the truth.

Trash, I was in HPN a few weeks ago and I heard a few CS guys talking and bitching about some new rumors. They were saying that you guys will be required to wear an airline like hat which will have yellow wings and the letters "CS" will be molded in the middle of the wings. They showed me the picture of the hat online and I guess they were a bit upset that these hats will come with chin straps as well. Guess they will hold better when its windy outside.

 

[XTW]

Oooohh! I hope the chin straps are made of vinyl! They'll be extra special in the summer!:nuts:


X


PS I hope you're not kidding.

 

[Guitar rocker]

Oooohh! I hope the chin straps are made of vinyl! They'll be extra special in the summer!:nuts:


X


PS I hope you're not kidding.

No, I'm dead serious. And worst part is that it costs 79.95 at the crewmembers expense. But they said that it could be payroll deducted.

 

[mariomia]

What is the current pay at cs ?
are there any other hidden money that you dont see on a pay table like tips or perdiem?
Is it going to get any better?
How about time to capt?

thanks

 

[FRACTRASH]

You NJ guys just make me feel so second best. Please stop, I can't take it anymore. I might just have to apply for a position at NJ, or not!

I think we covered all these topics about 1000 times. Please come up with something useful to talk about. I feel both parties have it pretty good, considering the state of the aviation industry.

As for the yellow hats, If it sells shares, bring it on.

 

[Guitar rocker]

You NJ guys just make me feel so second best. Please stop, I can't take it anymore. I might just have to apply for a position at NJ, or not!

I think we covered all these topics about 1000 times. Please come up with something useful to talk about. I feel both parties have it pretty good, considering the state of the aviation industry.

As for the yellow hats, If it sells shares, bring it on.

Trash, I think that you'll good with your hat on and that chin strap workin for yah. You gonna just kick a$$ with that new look!

 

[FRACTRASH]

Thanks rocker, It's going to be like the airline days, when management had the hat police out making sure we all had our hats on. They used to call it impressions of excellence, while the rampies could look like crap.

 

[Guitar rocker]

Thanks rocker, It's going to be like the airline days, when management had the hat police out making sure we all had our hats on. They used to call it impressions of excellence, while the rampies could look like crap.

Yup, some of those rampers look terrible. And we at the airline (as it were) made up for their professional appearance or lack thereof. Actually, we had one guy at our commuter that used duct tape to keep his shoes together. I mean, hey, if that will keep the ship afloat for a few more months, why not?

 

[CapnVegetto]

I don't quite understand.....I've got about 3200 hours, CE-500 type, about 1000 hours in the airplane, 700 PIC in the airplane, about 2000 multi, 1800 jet, and about 7 years of corporate experience. I been sending them resumes for the past 2 to 3 months, and can't get them to fart in my general direction. Am I underqualified or something? What else do I need to be doing? Thx!

 

[Humphreybogart]

Yup, some of those rampers look terrible.

Yea, but the female baggage handlers that walk around with the knee pads on really do something for me. I don't know what it is.

 

[Humphreybogart]

I don't quite understand.....I've got about 3200 hours, CE-500 type, about 1000 hours in the airplane, 700 PIC in the airplane, about 2000 multi, 1800 jet, and about 7 years of corporate experience. I been sending them resumes for the past 2 to 3 months, and can't get them to fart in my general direction. Am I underqualified or something? What else do I need to be doing? Thx!

Do you know anyone that works there that could give you a referrence? Remember, they get bombarded with qualified resumes every day. If I was you, I'd be sending them one every week if you really want to work for CS.
Good luck.

 

[CapnVegetto]

Do you know anyone that works there that could give you a referrence? Remember, they get bombarded with qualified resumes every day. If I was you, I'd be sending them one every week if you really want to work for CS.
Good luck.

Unfortunately I don't know a soul there. Seems like the only way to get on anywhere anymore is to know somebody. Guess I'll just keep pounding.

 

[blueridge71]

Get thee to the DCA job fair next week. They'll be there for the meet and greet, grip and grin.