Citation XLS+

[johnsonrod]

Hey, I know all of the fractionals have been slowing or cancelling aircraft orders with the imploding economy. No surprise there. Does anyone know if either NJA or CS has ordered the newer Citation XLS+? Looks like a Proline 21 version of the XLS with four vs. three tubes up front.

Anyone know if NJA or CS have these puppies on order? If so, how many? Would NJA and CS likely replace all existing XL/XLS aircraft with the + version in the long term? I presume we likely wouldn't start to see them until 2010-11 if they did.

 

[brokeflyer]

I think we have 50 on order and option for 50 more. But they aint completed yet.....

 

[johnsonrod]

I think we have 50 on order and option for 50 more. But they aint completed yet.....

Thanks - does that mean that they aren't expected until later 2009? Have these orders been delayed? And, are they basically expected to replace older XLs and XLS aircraft at NJA?

 

[o2bflyn]

Thanks - does that mean that they aren't expected until later 2009? Have these orders been delayed? And, are they basically expected to replace older XLs and XLS aircraft at NJA?

This is just a guess, but I would say yes on both questions. They are most probably delayed and I am sure the will replace some of the older XL's

 

[jehtplane]

Hey, I know all of the fractionals have been slowing or cancelling aircraft orders with the imploding economy. No surprise there. Does anyone know if either NJA or CS has ordered the newer Citation XLS+? Looks like a Proline 21 version of the XLS with four vs. three tubes up front.

Anyone know if NJA or CS have these puppies on order? If so, how many? Would NJA and CS likely replace all existing XL/XLS aircraft with the + version in the long term? I presume we likely wouldn't start to see them until 2010-11 if they did.

CS is also going to get them, but they are delayed for now.

 

[johnsonrod]

Thanks guys. I noticed a new Flying mag in the airport today profiling the XLS+. Looks like a sweet ride..... Hope you guys resume hiring (and the industry starts to do better) by the end of 09.

 

[o2bflyn]

Thanks guys. I noticed a new Flying mag in the airport today profiling the XLS+. Looks like a sweet ride..... Hope you guys resume hiring (and the industry starts to do better) by the end of 09.

Yeah, from what I have heard from people flying the proline 21 its a pretty sweet system. Would not mind getting my hands on it.

 

[BoilerUP]

PL21 is great, and the XLS+ has a Sovereign-style push-button cockpit with full EICAS. Its a very clean and very pilot-friendly design.

Nice ride, but unfortunately we could just about buy 2 CJ2+s for the cost of that mid-cabin and an APU!

 

[DO-82 driver]

One major drawback for me is the cockpit size. I understand its basically a X or 680 cockpit.... could be a bit cramped.

I got to sit in one before I make my decision I guess.

 

[BoilerUP]

One major drawback for me is the cockpit size. I understand its basically a X or 680 cockpit.... could be a bit cramped.

I got to sit in one before I make my decision I guess.

Same cabin tube so yeah, pretty much the same cockpit size.

Still bigger than any 500-series cockpit!

 

[DO-82 driver]

Actually, the Xl and XLS cockpits have more side leg room due to the single console.

That's what I need to compare.

I think FSI in CMH should have theirs all up and running this May..... I find out what its like during my next recurrent.

 

[bailout]

CS is also going to get them, but they are delayed for now.

CS is getting one in June, and the rest delayed until 2010.

 

[berryszoo]

Xls+

We took delivery of our XLS+ in Dec 08, no complaints about the a/c. The Proline 21 has not been a hard transition from our Universals in our XL's. The XLS+ will run the barberpole and most of the time,power must be pulled back not to exceed .755. So far, our department is pleased with the new aircraft.ZOO

 

[XTW]

CS is getting one in June

Source?


X

 

[brokeflyer]

Source?


X

well cessna is the only one that makes them.....so im guess it will come from wichita......lolololol


sorry bout that

 

[XTW]

Gee, I never thought about that, thanks!

 

[bailout]

Source?


X

SO himself. Its a wholly owned. Will have 5 pilots on it.

 

[johnsonrod]

SO himself. Its a wholly owned. Will have 5 pilots on it.

How many more are you expected to get in 09 and total?

 

[XTW]

SO himself. Its a wholly owned. Will have 5 pilots on it.

When does the bid come out?



X

 

[jehtplane]

When does the bid come out?



X

Hopefully it brings 5 of us back to work.

 

[bailout]

No bid, they are a 'selected' few.

 

[Stinkbug]

No bid, they are a 'selected' few.

I'm not buying that. How do you know this? Why wouldn't they put out a bid for it?

 

[bailout]

They are already picked out. You will see. (at the time of this writing anyhow, we all know things change)