Citation air to upgrade/recall

[rigger]

Came out yesterday, new airframes, new bid for Captains, FO's and recalls (number recalls to be determined still).

Some brighter news. Contrats to this affected!!!!

 

[wacoflyr]

Some brighter news. Contrats to this affected!!!!

Okay, if this some kind of Monte Python spoof, it blew over my head. However, if this is just really bad spelling combined with terrible grammer, then you have to wonder.

When you go fly, do you say "I'm goon to glow flug now," or something similar? Is your keyboard broken? What happened here?

 

[rigger]

Okay, if this some kind of Monte Python spoof, it blew over my head. However, if this is just really bad spelling combined with terrible grammer, then you have to wonder.

When you go fly, do you say "I'm goon to glow flug now," or something similar? Is your keyboard broken? What happened here?

HANGOVER???? or new IPAD typing....Or both

How about this

"NEWS Flash"

Two Citation tens
One CJ3

4 Citation ten PICs
2 CJ3 PICs

4 Citation ten FOs
4 CJ3 FOs

Number of recalls TBT

Bid closes 5 Jan. posting NLT Jan 11th.


Congrats to those affected.

 

[wacoflyr]

That is, of course, wonderful news. Way to go, guys.

 

[johnsonrod]

That is great news. Question about the Xs: are the pilots currently on the X paid more than those on the Sovereign or on other fleets? Do the X pilots currently operate on the same schedules as those on other fleets?

 

[sflax]

Same and Same and Same

 

[clueless]

That is great news. Question about the Xs: are the pilots currently on the X paid more than those on the Sovereign or on other fleets? Do the X pilots currently operate on the same schedules as those on other fleets?

The best deal at CA is to fly the smallest airframe they have.

Shorter legs; less flying; fewer pax; fewer bags to throw; very little recovery of larger aircrafts' flights...all for the same money on the same schedule.

Your hormones may say X, but your brain should say CJ1 (any of those left?).

 

[Crash Pad]

Not so true my man. The smallest airframe (CJ3) is the busiest in the fleet. Shorter legs? Some over 4 hours, and it happens more often than you think. Fewer bags? It has a large aft cargo compartment considering the class of aircraft, and the pax aren't afraid to test what can fit in there. Very little recovery of larger aircraft is true, so is the standby time. But that is only because we are already working at least 10 to 12 hours of duty already. In all actuality, bid the X. You don't fly and work not even a fraction of the busiest aircraft in the fleet.

 

[ExJmbDrv]

Crash Pad - you didn't mention my favorite part - The toilet - I think the X has a better arrangement there.

 

[Crash Pad]

Ahhh, the toilet. How could one forget that little gem. I like it when a kid shoves 3/4 a roll of toilet paper in the thing wiping his a$$!

 

[FastJP4]

Congrats. At least one Frac is going in the right direction.

 

[Jack Mehoff]

Congrats guys! Great to see a frac turning around.

 

[Crack-Ed]

Okay, if this some kind of Monte Python spoof, it blew over my head. However, if this is just really bad spelling combined with terrible grammer, then you have to wonder.

It's spelled grammAr. This is good. I love seeing ignorance correcting good intent. Also, by the way.... it's MontY Python.

Remember, Merlot and email do not mix. Happier New Year!

 

[wacoflyr]

Remember, Merlot and email do not mix. Happier New Year!

What is merlot, anyway? It sounds like some form of subarctic rodent. Was I drinking crushed rodent?

 

[CA1900]

What is merlot, anyway?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiOuroHPxRQ

:laugh:

 

[jehtplane]

And now back to Recalls and Upgrades at Citationair.

 

[ExJmbDrv]

Anyone actually get a call yet? or know of anyone that actually got a recall?

 

[Sparse]

Anyone actually get a call yet? or know of anyone that actually got a recall?

Probably will not know until the middle or latter part of the week.

 

[WheresRocky]

Probably will not know until the middle or latter part of the week.

Of what MONTH? :laugh:

 

[rigger]

Of what MONTH? :laugh:

Surprisingly this month,

These changes have created a welcomed need for additional staffing in the form of both upgrades and recalls. As a result of this positive growth, I am pleased to announce the following:

· Five pilots will upgrade from First Officer to Captain

· Thirteen pilots will be recalled from furlough

.....congrats all affected!

 

[Crash Pad]

Good! Maybe RCR5 can get back on the property to tell us all how the company should be run and how we are all idiots in person! In all seriousness, I am glad to hear that some good peeps will be back to work. Cheers everyone.

 

[J3guy]

Glad to have you back, guys!!!

But.....

Then our bosses said this:

"...our change in pay scales is not a pay cut. It has certainly resulted in compensation lower than you had expected, but in no single instance is anyone making less money that they made last year for the same job. That would be the definition of a pay cut."

" ...I’m sorry we ever posted pay scales in the first place. Other than for perceived competitive pressures, I can’t give you a single good reason why this would ever make sense for the employees or the company. Doing so sets a false expectation in the eyes of the employee base when the market turns with or against a company."

"Going forward, I encourage our crew members to think of wage scales as informational rather than as absolute. They are there for guidance as to what pay could be if things don’t change dramatically."

Seriously?? Okay man

 

[dime line]

Glad to have you back, guys!!!

But.....

Then our bosses said this:

"...our change in pay scales is not a pay cut. It has certainly resulted in compensation lower than you had expected, but in no single instance is anyone making less money that they made last year for the same job. That would be the definition of a pay cut."

" ...I’m sorry we ever posted pay scales in the first place. Other than for perceived competitive pressures, I can’t give you a single good reason why this would ever make sense for the employees or the company. Doing so sets a false expectation in the eyes of the employee base when the market turns with or against a company."

"Going forward, I encourage our crew members to think of wage scales as informational rather than as absolute. They are there for guidance as to what pay could be if things don’t change dramatically."

That was written by B19, right?

 

[SpaceBall 1]

Glad to have you back, guys!!!

But.....

Then our bosses said this:

"...our change in pay scales is not a pay cut. It has certainly resulted in compensation lower than you had expected, but in no single instance is anyone making less money that they made last year for the same job. That would be the definition of a pay cut."

" ...I’m sorry we ever posted pay scales in the first place. Other than for perceived competitive pressures, I can’t give you a single good reason why this would ever make sense for the employees or the company. Doing so sets a false expectation in the eyes of the employee base when the market turns with or against a company."

"Going forward, I encourage our crew members to think of wage scales as informational rather than as absolute. They are there for guidance as to what pay could be if things don’t change dramatically."

Honestly.......our pilots gripe and whine that we never receive communications from up top. :crying: When we do hear from the boss', somebody has to go post all or part of a document, intended for employees and their families on a public website?!? WTF! Keep it on the "other" board!

Now the positive news.....YES!! More folks back in the left seat and more back from furlough in the right seat is GREAT news!!!! :beer:

 

[ArtVandalay]

So glad there is a fractional out there that is recalling and moving to positive territory; meanwhile, Fred Reid continues on a path of employee uncertainty and fear. What a joke Flexjet has become in the last few years. I can accept the downturn in the economy but, I think we all know the bottom was almost a year ago and here we are talking about more layoffs when you guys are recalling.. Congrats guys I hope your business continues to do well, its good for us all.

 

[OPECJet]

So glad there is a fractional out there that is recalling and moving to positive territory; meanwhile, Fred Reid continues on a path of employee uncertainty and fear.

Don't worry, the powers that be in Ohio practice this too.

After that little snippet about pay scales, when does the union drive at Shares start?

 

[clr4theapch]

MOderator note... stop the threats.. physical threats are teken serious here on FI. getting banned is the least of your problems, your IP and registration information can be requested my LAw enforcement and the FAA if anything really happens..

Some of you are new, please re ready the term of service.. we allow alot here, but the things we list are strickly enforced..

SO stop it right here.. thanks..


clr4 mod.......................................

 

[airjackson]

Anyone actually get a call yet? or know of anyone that actually got a recall?

Yes and yes. Lot's of folks deferring, many of them having found very good jobs. IMHO, wouldn't be surprised to see new hires at CA within a year.

 

[UAL-GSO]

Yes and yes. Lot's of folks deferring, many of them having found very good jobs. IMHO, wouldn't be surprised to see new hires at CA within a year.

Any idea how far down the list they have gotten? Not sure what I will do, but I am close to the bottom anyway...

 

[airjackson]

Word has it they are now into the March 08 class. Don't know numbers. Hope that helps.