CHQ announces preliminary DCI routes

[ATL2CDG]

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Thursday August 1, 11:20 am Eastern Time
Press Release
SOURCE: Delta Connection
Delta Connection to Offer Nonstop Jet Service Between Columbus, Ohio And Orlando, Tampa, Fla.
ATLANTA, Aug. 1 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Delta Connection will offer customers jet service between Columbus, Ohio and the Florida cities of Orlando and Tampa beginning Nov. 1, 2002. Delta Connection carrier Chautauqua Airlines will operate three daily, nonstop round-trip flights between Columbus and both Orlando and Tampa using 50-seat Embraer regional jets (ERJ).

"Delta Connection's new service will provide customers with a convenient link between two key Florida cities and Columbus, an important business center and Ohio's capital," said Fred Buttrell, president and chief executive officer, Delta Connection, Inc.

As Delta Connection introduces the new service, Delta Express will discontinue its service from Columbus to Orlando and Tampa.

Designed for customer comfort, the ERJ features large overhead bins and one-by-two seating, with no middle seats. The ERJ is powered by Rolls Royce engines and is able to cruise at up to 37,000 feet, offering customers a smooth ride.

Delta Connection includes wholly owned subsidiaries Atlantic Southeast Airlines and Comair, additional regional carriers Atlantic Coast Airlines, Chautauqua Airlines and SkyWest Airlines, and codeshare partner American Eagle. Delta Connection carriers operate more than 250 regional jets throughout North America. For more information, please contact delta.com.


Columbus, Ohio to Orlando, Fla. Service


Flight Departure Arrival Equipment
6350 7:00 a.m. 9:15 a.m. ERJ
6352 1:05 p.m. 3:20 p.m. ERJ
6354 6:40 p.m. 8:55 p.m. ERJ

Orlando, Fla., to Columbus, Ohio Service

Flight Departure Arrival Equipment
6351 9:55 a.m. 12:15 a.m. ERJ
6353 4:00 p.m. 6:20 p.m. ERJ
6355 9:35 p.m. 11:55 p.m. ERJ


Columbus, Ohio to Tampa, Fla. Service

Flight Departure Arrival Equipment
6356 7:15 a.m. 9:32 a.m. ERJ
6358 12:55 p.m. 3:12 p.m. ERJ
6360 6:55 p.m. 9:12 p.m. ERJ

Tampa, Fla. To Columbus, Ohio Service

Flight Departure Arrival Equipment
6357 10:05 a.m. 12:27 p.m. ERJ
6359 3:45 p.m. 6:07 p.m. ERJ
6361 9:50 p.m. 12:12 a.m. ERJ

SOURCE: Delta Connection

 

[ATL2CDG]

Additionally...

I was under the presumption that CHQ was going to be operating 37-seat jungle jets for DCI... but the announcement says 50-seat. Normally, I'd play this off to media incompetence, but this is a company release. Anyone know anything about this?

 

[skyslug]

doesn't Chataqua also do America West Express? Isn't CMH a hub for HP? Seems kind of odd that Chataqua is doing DCI flying out of CMH.

 

[aceshigh]

slug,

yup, CHQ does do America west flying out of CMH. They also do U flying as well. Doesn't seem odd at all. Some of the flying overlaps, especially between HP and U. Boston and Philly are two examples that come to mind where Chq operates as HP lite, yet both are domiciles where Chq operates as U.

Aceshigh

 

[surplus1]

One of the "interesting" aspects of this is that management said they were substituting CHQ for CMR "in the MCO market" because Comair allegedly didn't have the "right equipment" for the FL airports.

Well since the big announcment, CMR has just scheduled new service between PBI and TLH, but CHQ is scheduling service between CMH-MCO and CMH-TPA.

Does anyone out there still believe we were not simply "replaced" by the lowest bidder? Look for more whipsaw to come in the future.

PS. No hard feelings towards CHQ pilots. It's not their fault.

Surplus1
CMR

 

[Anaconda]

As Delta Connection introduces the new service, Delta Express will discontinue its service from Columbus to Orlando and Tampa.

maybe now those from delta that believe that they are under attack from comair and asa will see the light and realize it affects all of us under the DAL umbrella...

of course i see that DAL express is expanding flying out of NY on that same day, so that could account for the reduction in CMH flying. however, i think the point is still being made.

 

[Guam360]

This is all the info I remember from Fred Buttrel(Delta guy),

DCI(Chautaugua) will operate 22 A/C , 17 - 135's and 5 - 145's.

Obviously they already have the 145's and waiting for the 135's.

It seems this is the beginning, operating from CMH, they won't have a crew base unil the beginning of next year.
CMh is on the proposed new route structure for Chautaugua from MCO. It works out for them, operate from CMH until they aquire the A/C......?

 

[Jump Pilot]

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Orlando, Fla., to Columbus, Ohio Service

Flight Departure Arrival Equipment
6351 9:55 a.m. 12:15 a.m. ERJ
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Hmmm. Long flight.

 

[B1900DFO]

What a frustrating industry. A regional fights for a decent contract and management promptly responds by sending the flying to the lowest bidder. I work for a U WO where the newest equipment is consistently given to the bottomfeeders of the industry. Good luck Comair/ASA.

 

[Guam360]

jumppilot,

we fly CVG-NAS, CVG-FLL, CVG-DFW, DFW-ORD, CVG-MCO,CVG-SAT......etc.

no difference....

 

[surplus1]

jumppilot,

we fly CVG-NAS, CVG-FLL, CVG-DFW, DFW-ORD, CVG-MCO,CVG-SAT......etc.

no difference....

Will you still think it is "no difference" when the flights you listed are replaced by CHQ and you wind up on the street?

Pull your head out.

 

[ATL2CDG]

Not so fast.

Surplus,

I think that guam360 was refering to the length of the flight to be operated in comparison to some of the Comair flights. I don't think he was refering in any way to the astounding labor issue involved.

ATL

 

[surplus1]

Re: Not so fast.

Surplus,

I think that guam360 was refering to the length of the flight to be operated in comparison to some of the Comair flights. I don't think he was refering in any way to the astounding labor issue involved.

ATL

I hope you are correct. Let's see what he says.

The length of the flight is irrelevant as far as I'm concerned. I don't care how far CHQ or anybody else flys. I do care about being replaced by another airline subcontractor that is the "lowest bidder".

There are 3 Delta, Inc. subsidiaries. Delta Air Lines, ASA and Comair. I don't want to see ANY of that flying farmed out to anyone for any reason. As an ASA employee, I hope you share that view.

 

[ATL2CDG]

Look at the thread.

My being correct is almost certain. Look at the thread. Guam360 was responding to jumppilot who said "long flight. hmmmm." after quoting one of the flights from the release. Guam360 then listed several long haul flights operated by Comair and said "no difference" to the fact that Comair operates long flights, just as CHQ will with the CMH service.

In terms of the labor issue involved with this, as a lowly cabin attendant with ASA, I concur with you completely. I support the wholly-owneds and do not enjoy seeing DCI opening the gates to the vultures. I have nothing at the pilots at CHQ, but of course, I completely disagree with the way management at DCI is treating ComASA like the plague. Until I see uniformity (or at least parity) in pay, benefits and respect, I'll continue to rally to the cause of ComASA and shun those bottom feeders who reeps the spoils of our success.

 

[surplus1]

Re: Look at the thread.

............as a lowly cabin attendant with ASA, .....

As a Captain, I take exception to that statement. There is nothing "lowly" about a cabin attendant! You are an essential, respected and very important member of the crew. Without your efforts, it would be impossible for me to do my job and my safety and that of our passengers would be severely compromised.

We don't work for the same "shell" company, but I'm confident that most of my peers at ASA feel as I do. I am certain they they all do at Comair.

Regards,

PS. Thanks for your comments on the thread. I see your point and stand corrected. Apologies to Guam360.

 

[Jump Pilot]

Folks, I was just pointing out the misprint in the schedule!

Flight 6351 is listed as a 13+ hour flight.


Let me make sure I understand this scene before I join the ranks of regional pilots and their frustration.

1. Big airline sees good opportunity ($$$$) on a potential route.

2. Big airline management sees that if they give it to a wholly
owned airline (ASA) it will cost $$$. Big airline scratches head.

3. Big airline secrectly scans the fruited plain for a small
independent airline (CHQ) to fly the route for $ instead of
$$$.

4. Agreement is reached between small and big. Small makes $
and big makes $$$.

5. Wholly owned makes $0.

6. Wow.

 

[ATL2CDG]

Thank you.

Surplus,

Thank you. I wish more pilots and travellers felt the same.

ATL

 

[Anaconda]

Re: Re: Look at the thread.

PS. Thanks for your comments on the thread. I see your point and stand corrected. Apologies to Guam360.

Will you still think it is "no difference" when the flights you listed are replaced by CHQ and you wind up on the street?

Pull your head out.

I do care about being replaced by another airline subcontractor that is the "lowest bidder".

There are 3 Delta, Inc. subsidiaries. Delta Air Lines, ASA and Comair. I don't want to see ANY of that flying farmed out to anyone for any reason. As an ASA employee, I hope you share that view.

along those same lines, i think you need to re-read my post and think about what i was saying.

perhaps then you will realize that i feel the same way you do and you will regret pm'ing me that diatribe this morning...

 

[BoredToDeath]

**we fly CVG-NAS, CVG-FLL, CVG-DFW, DFW-ORD, CVG-MCO,CVG-SAT......etc. **

Goes to show you that maybe some ML people have a point with saying "Theres Nothing Regional About A Regional Jet"?

As for you'r work getting farmed out, well I think you Comair and ASA people should have done whatever you could while this CHQ thing was just a rumor.

I hope you don't end up like the U WO.

Good Luck

 

[Guam360]

ATL2CDG & Anaconda,
Thanks for your support,

ATL2CDG is correct, I was stating similarities in length of flight, I assumed that "jumppilot" wasn't an airline pilot and pointed out similar flight segments.

Take it easy Surplus1, we are all flying airplanes for a living, we haven't much control over what owners do to us , wait a minute, I am just feeding Surplus1 for more comments...

No disrespect to jumppilot!

I didn't care for your PM either Surplus1.

I am gonna stop responding, you know some of us just like helping others find info they are seeking and we just may have the answers, that's why we are here, to help each other and keep each other informed. This is a great resource for everyone.