Chautaqua/Republic info

[Binger]

Searched this airline in the forum and the info is kinda old. Discussion of the Shuttle/Republic debate aside. I am hoping to hear from some pilots currently working for this company. Is it still a good place to apply to? Is now a good time to get in with projected future growth? If hired what would be expected as far as aircraft and basing? Aside from the typical things that make airline life a tough gig sometimes...would you say you are happy with the company. Thanks for any info or help.

 

[jaybird]

I've been here two years and I still love it. I'm based at home. That's a major plus. If I had to commute, it would be a differant story.

If you do come here soon don't expect a quick upgrade. Expect to be a line holding FO relativly soon though. I have yet to fly with a person I didn't get along with. Things have been a little rough lately with the shuttle integration and it wont be any prettier with the MDA intergration.

If you have prior 121/135 or turbine time and atp mis expect the 170 anything less expect the 145

It's usually the wholly owned pencil necked geeks that dog us here. They just be playa hatin' though.

 

[Mike man]

I commute and still love it. Don't count on a MDA integration (no carrier i.e. no certificate to integrate) we have a J4J that is in place.

 

[Binger]

I meant to ask: I see that the company hires into a pool.....do they assign class from the pool in the order placed there or take the best qualified candidates from the pool and keep the rest as warm bodies in the bullpen.

 

[STREAKS]

This outa give you an idea: interviewed in june, got a class in the 145 sep 10th for the 22nd, lost it on the 14th. Its great to see others pass me by in seniority. I do understand, however, me being 20 hours short of 500 x/c is very important, good Lord forbid I wont be able to find an airport thats more than 50 miles away. Not bitter at all, just a little concerned, thats all.
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[Mike man]

me being 20 hours short of 500 x/c is very important

What did you do...quit flying after you got the calss date? Get the 20 hours and call Rosa about a 170 class.

With DO328 and CE560 in your profile how do you not have 500 hours of xcountry?

 

[STREAKS]

What did you do...quit flying after you got the calss date? Get the 20 hours and call Rosa about a 170 class.

With DO328 and CE560 in your profile how do you not have 500 hours of xcountry?

Its a sad and long story, thats what being a check airman as an instructor gets you, a butt load of local flight time.

 

[Mike man]

I was a 141 checkairman too...take the students on a simulated x country to a point in space 50 miles away!

 

[STREAKS]

Oh, by the way, I did quit flying after getting the class. The first born was due about the time a certain airline out of MKE desided to send me for training in a less exciting airplane (1900). Serves me right!
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[pocket aces]

I commute and still love it. Don't count on a MDA integration (no carrier i.e. no certificate to integrate) we have a J4J that is in place.

Wishful thinking. If i were a betting man, and I am. I would say you are a 4 to 1 underdog to win the arbitration. Expect a seniority integration and some pretty pissed off pilots to fly with.

 

[KingAirer]

IIRC, for ATP mins, a landing at any airport other then you took of from can be considered a X-country.

 

[pocket aces]

I commute and still love it. Don't count on a MDA integration (no carrier i.e. no certificate to integrate) we have a J4J that is in place.

Wishful thinking. If i were a betting man, and I am. I would say you are a 4 to 1 underdog to win the arbitration. Expect a seniority integration and some pretty pi$$ed off pilots to fly with.

 

[Mike man]

J4J in already in place...a precedent has been set. No certificate, no airline, only pilots on the APL, some of who already fly for us under the J4J provisions. When you buy a used car, the previous owners (or drivers) don't come with the car, they have no leg to stand on. No chance of integration.

 

[Mike man]

IIRC, for ATP mins, a landing at any airport other then you took of from can be considered a X-country.

That is 135 X Country...not ATP X County.

 

[I.P. Freley]

No chance of integration.

Those MDA/J4J people won't be integrated, but half of them WILL be coming over as captains, right? And I presume they have to stay on their "own equipment" to keep that seat, as in they can't transfer over to another RAH company if they want to keep their left seat?

 

[KingAirer]

Close... I think its 50% total will be offered positions. Of those 50% half of those will be given capt slots.

 

[Mike man]

Exactly...50% of the positions will be staffed by MDA pilots on the APL and of that 50%, 50% will be CA's 50% will be FO's. No super seniority, but protected under the provisions of the existing J4J, if USAirways cuts back they are the first to go, if Delta cuts back they stay and other people go.

 

[StarChecker]

Expect a seniority integration and some pretty pi$$ed off pilots to fly with.

Great attitude.

We are willing to welcome you guys here...just as we have welcomed the current J4J'ers...and this is what we can expect?

How is treating our pilot group like $hit (i.e., denying jumpseats...which has already happened several times) justified in any way, shape or form?

Unbelievable.

 

[pocket aces]

USAirways has called every MDA pilot to offer them a position at repugnet and all but 2 declined. They offered the class to furloughed USAir pilots that were not at MDA and initially sereral took it, but after they were properly informed NO one showed up for class. I understand that Bedford has put training on hold until the arbitrators ruling regardless of his ruling there will be no one coming over from MDA under the j4j provision. Our 15 most jr FO's have been furloughed and every single one of them declined a capt slot. Its ALL OR NONE!

 

[pocket aces]

Great attitude.

We are willing to welcome you guys here...just as we have welcomed the current J4J'ers...and this is what we can expect?

How is treating our pilot group like $hit (i.e., denying jumpseats...which has already happened several times) justified in any way, shape or form?

Unbelievable.

The IBT had every opportunity to give a fair integration to the MDA pilots. Your selfish group offered us this.....

- 50% of the current position staffed at MDA
- A Staple of all pilots
- PayCut of about $5/hr for all positions
- Sign a 2 year enforcable 15,000 training contract......... for pilots that have more time in the 170 than any one in the world (exactly whos training who)
- Shared hotel rooms for those in training.

If you want to call that a welcome I dont want you on my jumpseat either! you are getting 28 additional aircraft, with additional growth in your company. And the the 250 pilots will gladly return to mainline when thier number is called (probably within 2 years). you all can take that offer and shove it up your collective cans.....its ALL or NONE!!!!!!!

 

[FlyinPiker]

Its ALL OR NONE!

Good Luck Pocket Aces!! Nice to see you guys standing strong!

 

[Stick Man]

The IBT had every opportunity to give a fair integration to the MDA pilots. Your selfish group offered us this.....

- 50% of the current position staffed at MDA
- A Staple of all pilots
- PayCut of about $5/hr for all positions
- Sign a 2 year enforcable 15,000 training contract......... for pilots that have more time in the 170 than any one in the world (exactly whos training who)
- Shared hotel rooms for those in training.

If you want to call that a welcome I dont want you on my jumpseat either! you are getting 28 additional aircraft, with additional growth in your company. And the the 250 pilots will gladly return to mainline when thier number is called (probably within 2 years). you all can take that offer and shove it up your collective cans.....its ALL or NONE!!!!!!!

You're right - those terms suck . . . I wonder what kind of seniority they'd have in an Unemployment line.

 

[I.P. Freley]

USAirways has called every MDA pilot to offer them a position at repugnet

If you're going to resort to third-grade behavior and call names (man, WHAT could be wittier than taking a company name and turning it into a slur!!), try learning how to SPELL that word.

 

[Traumahawk]

The IBT had every opportunity to give a fair integration to the MDA pilots. Your selfish group offered us this.....

- 50% of the current position staffed at MDA
- A Staple of all pilots
- PayCut of about $5/hr for all positions
- Sign a 2 year enforcable 15,000 training contract......... for pilots that have more time in the 170 than any one in the world (exactly whos training who)
- Shared hotel rooms for those in training.

If you want to call that a welcome I dont want you on my jumpseat either!

A lot of us feel your pain. Over the last 9 months I've become good friends with quite a few of the J4Jers here at CHQ, and a few at MDA. I have a tremendous respect for many of them, as most of us do.

The fact of the matter is, most of them don't agree with the way some in your group are acting towards ours. You were a division of Airways, not a certificated carrier. Instead of parking airplanes forcing u onto the street, this time they sold them. Don't take it out on this pilot group.

By the way, I don't remember Brian Bedford calling me up and asking me, or any other CHQ pilot about the MDA situation.

Denying the jumpseat to any of us is just completely uncalled for. Especially from the many veterans of this industry that make up MDA. I'm glad to know that a lot of your group does not harbour the attitudes displayed here.

T-Hawk

 

[AirCanon04]

Are they still hiring for the 170? If so what do I have to do inorder for Rosa to call me, short of non-reving out there..?? Is there something to do that helps people get noticed?

 

[h25b]

The IBT had every opportunity to give a fair integration to the MDA pilots. Your selfish group offered us this.....

- 50% of the current position staffed at MDA
- A Staple of all pilots
- PayCut of about $5/hr for all positions
- Sign a 2 year enforcable 15,000 training contract......... for pilots that have more time in the 170 than any one in the world (exactly whos training who)
- Shared hotel rooms for those in training.

If you want to call that a welcome I dont want you on my jumpseat either! you are getting 28 additional aircraft, with additional growth in your company. And the the 250 pilots will gladly return to mainline when thier number is called (probably within 2 years). you all can take that offer and shove it up your collective cans.....its ALL or NONE!!!!!!!

If I were you I'd be planning on "NONE." We all feel for your situation but asking another pilot to give up a single seniority number is a bit over the top. No pilot that I know of would just willingly do it without it being ordered from arbitration. I wonder what you would prefer if the shoe were on the other foot.

You just seem to think you're somehow special. If you get offered a position at another company, you are subject to the terms the company offers. The training contract and shared hotel rooms I believe are standard for new hires at CHQ. Why in the world would you presume to be above this ??? If you don't like it, take your high road to the unemployment office... You seem to want to be able to just transfer on over to Republic and operate under your current contract. It doesn't work that way pal... Lots of luck to you, you're going to need it.

 

[House_X]

The IBT had every opportunity to give a fair integration to the MDA pilots. Your selfish group offered us this.....

- 50% of the current position staffed at MDA
- A Staple of all pilots
- PayCut of about $5/hr for all positions
- Sign a 2 year enforcable 15,000 training contract......... for pilots that have more time in the 170 than any one in the world (exactly whos training who)
- Shared hotel rooms for those in training.

If you want to call that a welcome I dont want you on my jumpseat either! you are getting 28 additional aircraft, with additional growth in your company. And the the 250 pilots will gladly return to mainline when thier number is called (probably within 2 years). you all can take that offer and shove it up your collective cans.....its ALL or NONE!!!!!!!

Your employer, US AIRWAYS, SOLD YOU GUYS OUT! US Air wanted to get rid of the 170 leases and the pilots. From what I read from the lawsuit, US Air lied to your pilot group regarding the operating certificate (i.e. never existed). Republic offers you a job and you file a lawsuit against them as well? This feud is between US Air and MDA...keep Republic out of it!!!!

 

[FR8mastr]

You seem to want to be able to just transfer on over to Republic and operate under your current contract. It doesn't work that way pal... Lots of luck to you, you're going to need it.

Yes, that is exactly what we believe the contract says pal. the arbitator will have the final say. Maybe we will lose and you can gloat and be happy knowing your company helped put another 1000 people out of work. I sure hope the senior at Riddle enjoys his quick upgrade time. In the meantime the pilots at the division are standing tall and trying to enforce our contract to stop the outsourcing that is destroying the piloting profession. and if we lose good luck to us all as we will all need it. Dont believe me look at CMR, and NW for the latest examples.

ALL or NONE!!!

 

[flyinglow]

When are Shitpublic guys going to realize that it is exactly what their company is doing that is destroying a once proud profession.

 

[OldManPilot]

IF the MDA pilots win the arbitration they will be mergered at REP/CHQ/S5 on the Pilot seniority list (per the Allegheny/Mohawk)... plus they MUST give up any recall rights at U. They will also be required to become members of the IBT747. ALPA will be a thing of the past for these pilots. Its not gonna be a j4j type thing where you keep any recall... You will be working for a new certificate as just another pilot.

Be careful what you wish for, you just might get it!