Challenger 350 officially announced for Netjets...

[jonjuan]

Surprisingly, Netjets' new Phenom 300s with the touch-screen Prodigy/Garmin 3000 will have a more advanced flight deck than the CL350?

please regale us all as to why the Garmin is a more advanced set up than PL21?

 

[gmorgan]

Someone mentioned the CL350 being over 40,000 lbs and paying more. In order to pay more, it has to meet two criteria.......over 40,000 lbs and a range equal to or greater than the Falcon Easy. The CL 350 doesn't meet that range requirement.

 

[ProFracPilot]

IMHO, for the money, the Falcon and Gulfstream product are way more plane for the same money. Heck, the new-and-improved CL-300 prices out at 21m plus options, putting it close to 22m delivered. G280's can be delivered, WITH options, for 24m.

In the end, it's about customer service and support. Gulfstream wouldn't deliver a lost-leader on price, and BAS would.

I'd go with the Gulfstream product in a heartbeat.

Which begs the question: Will one of the fractional service providers be signing up for the G280? If so, which one? It seems the NJ-GAC divorce is still ongoing, so I don't see a G280 flying with a QS tail number anytime soon.

 

[Heavy Set]

please regale us all as to why the Garmin is a more advanced set up than PL21?

While great and easy to use, the PL21 has been around for years. I think Jrod was referring to the fact that Netjets upgraded the original Phenom 300 Prodigy package to the touchscreen Garmin 3000 version while it did not upgrade the PL21 to a more updated Collins package like the PL Fusion:

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl...=53KbUc2NJqns0gGdzYDgAw&ved=0CD4Q9QEwAw&dur=0

It doesn't matter to me - the PL21 suits me just fine! :beer:

 

[superfly]

Pl21

Fusion would be awesome, but the PL21 will have Synthetic vision and option for RNP 0.3 approaches. Still improvements over current PL21.

I agree with above posters in terms of owners not caring about cockpit features, more improvements like 2.5 inch taller windows and fully interactive multi media will sell.

How many of these will end up in China?

 

[X-rated]

Falcon 2000S has better Range, bigger cabin, lower operating cost and better performance for the same price.

Bombardier could have done so much more, and they've been talking about an upgrade forever. My guess is they didn't want the 350 to get too close to the 605's mission. It's a big miss in my estimation. That said, it'll be a good plane, and they will sell plenty.

 

[rjcap]

Falcon 2000S has better Range, bigger cabin, lower operating cost and better performance for the same price.

Bombardier could have done so much more, and they've been talking about an upgrade forever. My guess is they didn't want the 350 to get too close to the 605's mission. It's a big miss in my estimation. That said, it'll be a good plane, and they will sell plenty.

Bingo !!

I have always been under the impression that BBD did not want the 300/350 competing with the 605. Apparently the 605 production line is very alive and since its a mature airframe, I assume a big money maker.

I also think this is short sighted but its all about $$$

Would be nice to see a significant upgrade to the 605 but I imagine that is still in the future.

 

[imacdog]

Falcon 2000S has better Range, bigger cabin, lower operating cost and better performance for the same price.

Bombardier could have done so much more, and they've been talking about an upgrade forever. My guess is they didn't want the 350 to get too close to the 605's mission. It's a big miss in my estimation. That said, it'll be a good plane, and they will sell plenty.

Much in the same way that Porsche won't put their top engine in the Cayman; to avoid competition with its own 911.

 

[acaTerry]

someone mentioned the cl350 being over 40,000 lbs and paying more. In order to pay more, it has to meet two criteria.......over 40,000 lbs and a range equal to or greater than the falcon easy. The cl 350 doesn't meet that range requirement.

bingo

 

[CALRepublic]

Someone mentioned the CL350 being over 40,000 lbs and paying more. In order to pay more, it has to meet two criteria.......over 40,000 lbs and a range equal to or greater than the Falcon Easy. The CL 350 doesn't meet that range requirement.

That was me. Thanks I didn't know that