Challenger 350 officially announced for Netjets...

[t-bone]

That was me. Thanks I didn't know that

Even more reason for them to put that center fuel tank in...

 

[stupidpilot]

Even more reason for them to put that center fuel tank in...

What? Just so you can get a pay raise????? Really?

 

[t-bone]

What? Just so you can get a pay raise????? Really?

Wouldn't do me any good...

 

[stupidpilot]

Wouldn't do me any good...

I hear ya brother.

 

[johnsonrod]

Better description of the CL350 cockpit

See below:




Source:


Bombardier Challenger 300 owners will soon be able to upgrade their Rockwell Collins Pro Line 21 cockpits to the Pro Line Advanced, the Canadian airframer said at the show this morning. Pro Line Advanced has been selected for its Challenger 350 super-midsize stablemate - unveiled at EBACE on Monday. The suite features a host of improvements over its older stablemate, including enhancements to the primary flight display and integrated flight information systems. Pro Line Advanced can also be equipped with MultiScan weather radar, localiser performance with vertical guidance, and other required navigation performance approaches. Synthetic vision is also included as an option. The upgrade can be performed at any of Bombardier's 60 authorised and nine company-owned service centres.

 

[jonjuan]

See below:




Source:


Bombardier Challenger 300 owners will soon be able to upgrade their Rockwell Collins Pro Line 21 cockpits to the Pro Line Advanced, the Canadian airframer said at the show this morning. Pro Line Advanced has been selected for its Challenger 350 super-midsize stablemate - unveiled at EBACE on Monday. The suite features a host of improvements over its older stablemate, including enhancements to the primary flight display and integrated flight information systems. Pro Line Advanced can also be equipped with MultiScan weather radar, localiser performance with vertical guidance, and other required navigation performance approaches. Synthetic vision is also included as an option. The upgrade can be performed at any of Bombardier's 60 authorised and nine company-owned service centres.

Surely better, but both still more capable than the Garmin set-up in the P300 you referenced (no multiscan radar or random hold capability for example). The Garmin's (1000/3000) roots come from the piston world (pretty colors/presentation/synthetic vision) versus PL which was specifically designed for business jet usage.

 

[CALRepublic]

From ainonline.com "Challenger 350 to become climb leader"
good article

The Challenger 350 will become the time-to-climb leader of the entire Bombardier business jet line once it enters service next year, Bombardier Challenger vice president and general manager St?phane Leblanc said at a technical briefing at EBACE. Bombardier expects the super-midsize jet to reach 41,000 feet in 18 minutes, surpassing the manufacturer’s current leader, the Learjet 60.



Movie star and pilot, as well as Bombardier brand ambassador, John Travolta has been working as a flight-test pilot supporting the airframer’s efforts to get the Challenger 350 certified. Now 30 percent through the flight-test program, the Challenger 350 has flown some 200 hours, validating performance specifications related to a new set of winglets that effectively extend the wingspan of its Challenger 300 cousin by nine feet.

The longer and stronger wing allows for an increase in mtow of 1,750 pounds over the Challenger 300 and about 750 more pounds of fuel. Other performance improvements come from the airplane’s new Honeywell HTF7350 engines, which produce 500 pounds more thrust than the HTF7000 on the Challenger 300 while burning no more fuel.

Following the reconfirmation on Monday of a firm order placed last year by NetJets for 75 Challenger 350s, Bombardier began sales efforts involving other potential customers. However, Leblanc declined to comment whether any further orders have since been logged, citing company policy.

 

[Gators]

Travolta was one of the test pilots. Oh, now that makes sense

 

[DO-82 driver]

Travolta was one of the test pilots. Oh, now that makes sense

Well, at least we know the plane can do a back course localizer.

 

[t-bone]

Well, at least we know the plane can do a back course localizer.

That right there was funny!

 

[squonk]

Surely better, but both still more capable than the Garmin set-up in the P300 you referenced (no multiscan radar or random hold capability for example). The Garmin's (1000/3000) roots come from the piston world (pretty colors/presentation/synthetic vision) versus PL which was specifically designed for business jet usage.

The problem is NJ wont come off the hip and spring for those nice bells and whistles.

 

[tomgoodman]

"Bombardier expects the super-midsize jet to reach 41,000 feet in 18 minutes, surpassing the manufacturer?s current leader, the Learjet 60."

In 1971 an IP was showing us new UPT students the T-38: "This airplane set a record -- brake release to 40,000 feet in 96 seconds."
(He exaggerated slightly; it was 12,000 meters/39,372 feet.).

 

[208starcheck]

In 1971 an IP was showing us new UPT students the T-38: "This airplane set a record -- brake release to 40,000 feet in 96 seconds."
(He exaggerated slightly; it was 12,000 meters/39,372 feet.).

Load up that T-38 with: 9 pax, 6 leather pax seats, a couch (yes a f'ing couch), coffee pots, an ice chest, TV's for every pax, golf clubs, enough fuel to fly more then 1,093 mile (max t38 range) and then yes, this is a similar comparison.

T38
Max takeoff weight 12,700 lb
Max Range 1093

CL 350
max fuel load 14,100 lbs
Max Range 3,200

 

[jonjuan]

Load up that T-38 with: 9 pax, 6 leather pax seats, a couch (yes a f'ing couch), coffee pots, an ice chest, TV's for every pax, golf clubs, enough fuel to fly more then 1,093 mile (max t38 range) and then yes, this is a similar comparison.

T38
Max takeoff weight 12,700 lb
Max Range 1093

CL 350
max fuel load 14,100 lbs
Max Range 3,200

The space shuttle can carry a whole heck of a lot more than that and further and has a bit more range than 3,200. Time to 40,000? About 40 seconds.

 

[hammer2]

The space shuttle can carry a whole heck of a lot more than that and further and has a bit more range than 3,200. Time to 40,000? About 40 seconds.

Yeah, but it has a little trouble getting out of HXD in the summer...

 

[brokeflyer]

The space shuttle can carry a whole heck of a lot more than that and further and has a bit more range than 3,200. Time to 40,000? About 40 seconds.

yeah, but you gotta get whatever you wanna haul down to florida first.

 

[johnsonrod]

Boy, did this thread go down hill.............

 

[vixin]

I must have missed the announcement where Obama decided to restart the space program. Free cell phones for the poor is more important. Hard to move anything when they are in museums.

 

[JJET44]

Travolta was one of the test pilots. Oh, now that makes sense

They wanted to prove that even a monkey could fly it!!

 

[ghostrider64]

Just visited Gulfstream this week. They had a G280 fly nonstop with two pax, Luton to Chicago!

G280 is coming out with auto throttles, STANDARD.

350 may be some people's dream, but the 280 is a totally new beast that's going to make the bombardier folks green with envy.