Challenger 350 officially announced for Netjets...

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Falcon 2000S has better Range, bigger cabin, lower operating cost and better performance for the same price.

Bombardier could have done so much more, and they've been talking about an upgrade forever. My guess is they didn't want the 350 to get too close to the 605's mission. It's a big miss in my estimation. That said, it'll be a good plane, and they will sell plenty.

 

[rjcap]

Falcon 2000S has better Range, bigger cabin, lower operating cost and better performance for the same price.

Bombardier could have done so much more, and they've been talking about an upgrade forever. My guess is they didn't want the 350 to get too close to the 605's mission. It's a big miss in my estimation. That said, it'll be a good plane, and they will sell plenty.

Bingo !!

I have always been under the impression that BBD did not want the 300/350 competing with the 605. Apparently the 605 production line is very alive and since its a mature airframe, I assume a big money maker.

I also think this is short sighted but its all about $$$

Would be nice to see a significant upgrade to the 605 but I imagine that is still in the future.

 

[imacdog]

Falcon 2000S has better Range, bigger cabin, lower operating cost and better performance for the same price.

Bombardier could have done so much more, and they've been talking about an upgrade forever. My guess is they didn't want the 350 to get too close to the 605's mission. It's a big miss in my estimation. That said, it'll be a good plane, and they will sell plenty.

Much in the same way that Porsche won't put their top engine in the Cayman; to avoid competition with its own 911.

 

[acaTerry]

someone mentioned the cl350 being over 40,000 lbs and paying more. In order to pay more, it has to meet two criteria.......over 40,000 lbs and a range equal to or greater than the falcon easy. The cl 350 doesn't meet that range requirement.

bingo

 

[CALRepublic]

Someone mentioned the CL350 being over 40,000 lbs and paying more. In order to pay more, it has to meet two criteria.......over 40,000 lbs and a range equal to or greater than the Falcon Easy. The CL 350 doesn't meet that range requirement.

That was me. Thanks I didn't know that

 

[t-bone]

That was me. Thanks I didn't know that

Even more reason for them to put that center fuel tank in...

 

[stupidpilot]

Even more reason for them to put that center fuel tank in...

What? Just so you can get a pay raise????? Really?

 

[t-bone]

What? Just so you can get a pay raise????? Really?

Wouldn't do me any good...

 

[stupidpilot]

Wouldn't do me any good...

I hear ya brother.

 

[johnsonrod]

Better description of the CL350 cockpit

See below:




Source:


Bombardier Challenger 300 owners will soon be able to upgrade their Rockwell Collins Pro Line 21 cockpits to the Pro Line Advanced, the Canadian airframer said at the show this morning. Pro Line Advanced has been selected for its Challenger 350 super-midsize stablemate - unveiled at EBACE on Monday. The suite features a host of improvements over its older stablemate, including enhancements to the primary flight display and integrated flight information systems. Pro Line Advanced can also be equipped with MultiScan weather radar, localiser performance with vertical guidance, and other required navigation performance approaches. Synthetic vision is also included as an option. The upgrade can be performed at any of Bombardier's 60 authorised and nine company-owned service centres.

 

[jonjuan]

See below:




Source:


Bombardier Challenger 300 owners will soon be able to upgrade their Rockwell Collins Pro Line 21 cockpits to the Pro Line Advanced, the Canadian airframer said at the show this morning. Pro Line Advanced has been selected for its Challenger 350 super-midsize stablemate - unveiled at EBACE on Monday. The suite features a host of improvements over its older stablemate, including enhancements to the primary flight display and integrated flight information systems. Pro Line Advanced can also be equipped with MultiScan weather radar, localiser performance with vertical guidance, and other required navigation performance approaches. Synthetic vision is also included as an option. The upgrade can be performed at any of Bombardier's 60 authorised and nine company-owned service centres.

Surely better, but both still more capable than the Garmin set-up in the P300 you referenced (no multiscan radar or random hold capability for example). The Garmin's (1000/3000) roots come from the piston world (pretty colors/presentation/synthetic vision) versus PL which was specifically designed for business jet usage.

 

[CALRepublic]

From ainonline.com "Challenger 350 to become climb leader"
good article

The Challenger 350 will become the time-to-climb leader of the entire Bombardier business jet line once it enters service next year, Bombardier Challenger vice president and general manager St?phane Leblanc said at a technical briefing at EBACE. Bombardier expects the super-midsize jet to reach 41,000 feet in 18 minutes, surpassing the manufacturer’s current leader, the Learjet 60.



Movie star and pilot, as well as Bombardier brand ambassador, John Travolta has been working as a flight-test pilot supporting the airframer’s efforts to get the Challenger 350 certified. Now 30 percent through the flight-test program, the Challenger 350 has flown some 200 hours, validating performance specifications related to a new set of winglets that effectively extend the wingspan of its Challenger 300 cousin by nine feet.

The longer and stronger wing allows for an increase in mtow of 1,750 pounds over the Challenger 300 and about 750 more pounds of fuel. Other performance improvements come from the airplane’s new Honeywell HTF7350 engines, which produce 500 pounds more thrust than the HTF7000 on the Challenger 300 while burning no more fuel.

Following the reconfirmation on Monday of a firm order placed last year by NetJets for 75 Challenger 350s, Bombardier began sales efforts involving other potential customers. However, Leblanc declined to comment whether any further orders have since been logged, citing company policy.

 

[Gators]

Travolta was one of the test pilots. Oh, now that makes sense

 

[DO-82 driver]

Travolta was one of the test pilots. Oh, now that makes sense

Well, at least we know the plane can do a back course localizer.

 

[t-bone]

Well, at least we know the plane can do a back course localizer.

That right there was funny!