CFI needed in Flagstaff, AZ

[flyingnome]

well I feel that flight instruction is highly underpaid thats just how it is and it is not really going to change anytime soon. Look at how teachers in general are paid. Unfortunatly it brings many lousy instructors in that only care about getting hours and getting the heck out.

but this job does pay ok for flight instruction and it is available . So someone jump on it quick my students are eager to continue.

 

[flyingnome]

someone jump on this job

 

[flyinlow67]

PLEASE GET THE FCK OUT OF AVIATION WITH THAT THINKING!!!! WE HAVE ENOUGH PROBLEMS GETTING PAID WHAT WE ARE WORTH!!!!!

Easy Francis! I don't know what your months of experience have taught you, but $17 an hour to start isn't bad by comparison for a one instructor shop. The networking is priceless. That in itself will lead to a much better paying gig as it did for me and countless others who came before and after me.
We are worth what people are willing to pay, not what we think we are worth. And BTW.....there is a huge difference between a CEO and a 500 hour flight instructor, so that comparison just won't fly.

 

[stearnst]

Ugh...Flagstaff. Yeah, tons of chicks...if you're into the type that have more hair on their legs and pits than most four-legged animals. That town has so many hippies and granolas running around it, it shocks me every time.

Plus, you're right in that housing isn't the cheapest in AZ. I thought prices were high around Prescott, Flag certainly has them beat by a considerable margin (I'll admit I haven't looked in the last six months, things may have cooled down since then). I have a couple buddies in the construction business up there and in Kachina, and they both mentioned once or twice how they were just shocked at the prices people were willing to pay for houses.

Sorry, I just have a beef with that town, it's always been one bad experience after another when I go up there.

Wiseman though, they do run a class act FBO. I've been in there a few times and they have always been outrageously accomodating. It's good to hear they treat their employees as favorably as their customers. If I weren't so happy at what I'm doing in Prescott, I'd want to find a place like Wiseman to work for. I hope you guys tracked down somebody for the job.

 

[CDogg]

What are you doing in PRC?

 

[paid4training]

Easy Francis! I don't know what your months of experience have taught you, but $17 an hour to start isn't bad by comparison for a one instructor shop. The networking is priceless. That in itself will lead to a much better paying gig as it did for me and countless others who came before and after me.
We are worth what people are willing to pay, not what we think we are worth. And BTW.....there is a huge difference between a CEO and a 500 hour flight instructor, so that comparison just won't fly.

Well mr. knoweverything, Anytime any pilot says "I'll take less" is an invitation for the next guy to take less. Let's say this guy takes this job for less, and gets this experience you talk about. He applies for your company I am assuming you work for and will take less money because it is a Jet (or whatever you allknowing folks fly). He gets hired for half what you get paid and a burb in the economy comes around and they start laying off. You end up taking a pay cut because the boss can find someone who will do it cheaper. And he will be right because, well hell He hired your buddy for half price. Its called trickle down bs. I was comparing a CEO to a pilot because in theory you (Allmighty) ARE the CEO of your airplane and passengers or cagro.

Oh I learned all this in my ONE month so please be gentle...a$$clown

 

[IP076]

Ugh...Flagstaff. Yeah, tons of chicks...if you're into the type that have more hair on their legs and pits than most four-legged animals. That town has so many hippies and granolas running around it, it shocks me every time.

Plus, you're right in that housing isn't the cheapest in AZ. I thought prices were high around Prescott, Flag certainly has them beat by a considerable margin (I'll admit I haven't looked in the last six months, things may have cooled down since then). I have a couple buddies in the construction business up there and in Kachina, and they both mentioned once or twice how they were just shocked at the prices people were willing to pay for houses.

Sorry, I just have a beef with that town, it's always been one bad experience after another when I go up there.

Wiseman though, they do run a class act FBO. I've been in there a few times and they have always been outrageously accomodating. It's good to hear they treat their employees as favorably as their customers. If I weren't so happy at what I'm doing in Prescott, I'd want to find a place like Wiseman to work for. I hope you guys tracked down somebody for the job.

I'm sure your displeasure with flagstaff doesn't have to do with a certain government organization, huh?

 

[flyinlow67]

Well mr. knoweverything, Anytime any pilot says "I'll take less" is an invitation for the next guy to take less. Let's say this guy takes this job for less, and gets this experience you talk about. He applies for your company I am assuming you work for and will take less money because it is a Jet (or whatever you allknowing folks fly). He gets hired for half what you get paid and a burb in the economy comes around and they start laying off. You end up taking a pay cut because the boss can find someone who will do it cheaper. And he will be right because, well hell He hired your buddy for half price. Its called trickle down bs. I was comparing a CEO to a pilot because in theory you (Allmighty) ARE the CEO of your airplane and passengers or cagro.

Oh I learned all this in my ONE month so please be gentle...a$$clown

Yeah, thanks for the economic lesson there junior. Welcome to the real world. It happens in every career out there, not just ours. Doesn't make it right, but that's the way it is. Learn to deal with it, or burn out trying to fight it.

 

[paid4training]

Yeah, thanks for the economic lesson there junior. Welcome to the real world. It happens in every career out there, not just ours. Doesn't make it right, but that's the way it is. Learn to deal with it, or burn out trying to fight it.

Hey dude, you might want to either update your profile regarding your airplanes flown or stop calling someone you have no idea anything about "junior"...I have been in this industry for quite awhile!!!!

 

[flyinlow67]

And all of 500 hours.........my, my, I'm impressed!

 

[flyingnome]

come on guys, this isnt helping me find a replacement.

 

[flyinlow67]

Your right. Enough is enough. I remember how hard it was to find my students a new instructor when I took my first post instructing job. Kudo's to you for caring enough to do it instead of just dumping them. Good job!

 

[paid4training]

One more statement and I will close and have ego boy have the last word on this issue if he chooses. I have been in the industry for 7 plus years in a non-flying job but part of the industry. I have seen first hand this "pay us nothing" philosophy. I was trying to make a point to the poster who said this and you added your .02 along with the "you don't know anything" post. Everyday Unions in this industry are fighting to stop this type of thinking and put some value on Pilots and the Aviation industry as a whole. If you choose not to and believe it is just part of the job, then fine. Please keep it down because there are folks everyday willing to put their careers on the line to better the industry.

 

[IP076]

Wow...another useful thread gone on to bantering about pay....move it to another post, this is about a job available in Flagstaff! (That actually seems to pay decently for a flight instructor)

 

[flyingnome]

Wow...another useful thread gone on to bantering about pay....move it to another post, this is about a job available in Flagstaff! (That actually seems to pay decently for a flight instructor)

Yup it was a great job for me and it still is open...

 

[stearnst]

I'm sure your displeasure with flagstaff doesn't have to do with a certain government organization, huh?

Now what would ever give you that idea. :laugh: