Central Air Southwest?

[wheelsup]

GIA PFTs displace what should be paid pilots. Airnet, Central Air Southwest SICs are flying Commanders, Caravans, and other aircraft that do not require SICs. The time is legal to log but most people look at this time as worthless experience.

Don't forget that Airnet actually pays its SIC's, something the other companies listed don't do.

~wheelsup

 

[Nightowl]

At CAS they do prefer to hire pilots from the SIC program for obvious reasons. They are not looked down upon if they do indeed become a pic. While I am against PFT in general I think you will get more bang for your buck at CAS. When I flew with the SIC's I always made sure that it was a learning experience for both pilots. It teaches good CRM to the PIC's and if you demonstrate the necessary skills most guys will let you fly every other leg. For 30/hour it's some pretty cheap time if you just lack the 135 requirements.

 

[T-REX]

Yes, cheap time and good stepping stone. But your 1000 hr pilot with 700 SIC Commander time will get laughed out of most airline interviews.

 

[Cuban B.]

Awesome. Thanks for the clarification. Commanders seem like fun too.

 

[Jump Pilot]

Anybody know the routes they are flying out of Dallas and Lubbock?

 

[T-REX]

Havent seen the CAS plane out of Lubbock, but there is a Telesis Aerostar and C310 operated by a company in ABQ there--cant remember the co. name sorry. They both fly into ADS at night.
Out of Dallas both Telesis and GTA are hiring, no Commanders but hope this helps. What DZ are you working at?

 

[EatSleepFly]

the commanders they fly do have the TKS (alcohaul) anti ice system which kicks butt compared to planes with boots.

TKS sucks! One of the airplanes I fly has it, the others have boots. I'd much rather have boots! I guess if you could climb above junk, you could turn it on before going into it, then off when you get on top...that'd be alright. For slugging it out down low with no ability to climb above the crap, TKS is next to useless, in my opinion. You have to have it on before accumulating ice for it to be really effective and there's a limited quantity of fluid until you land and can refill it (which also sucks).



Edit: Sorry to stray off topic...

 

[staledog]

TKS sucks! One of the airplanes I fly has it, the others have boots. I'd much rather have boots! I guess if you could climb above junk, you could turn it on before going into it, then off when you get on top...that'd be alright. For slugging it out down low with no ability to climb above the crap, TKS is next to useless, in my opinion. You have to have it on before accumulating ice for it to be really effective and there's a limited quantity of fluid until you land and can refill it (which also sucks).



Edit: Sorry to stray off topic...

I guess everybody has a different opinion about what sucks and what doesn't. All I know is that on those really icy nights, I would land in the baron covered in the stuff and those old commanders would come in with the wings clean as a whistle. I think they hold enough fluid to keep it on for a few hours, too. HOWEVER, I myself never flew any planes with the TKS so I really don't know if it sucks or not. I will take your word for it. Peace.

 

[Flyin Tony]

You have to have it on before accumulating ice for it to be really effective and there's a limited quantity of fluid until you land and can refill it

Isnt TKS a anti-ice and not a de-ice system, I would love to have any kind of de-ice anti-ice system because now im afraid to go in the clouds when its cold out. I just hop on Flight sim

 

[Slippery Wing]

The commanders hold about 17 gallons of TKS fluid if I remember right, and go through just over 4 gph on the normal setting. The system works great so long as you turn it on BEFORE you get into the crap.

 

[flytheblue]

>>The system works great so long as you turn it on BEFORE you get into the crap.<<


Even if you wait till after youre getting ice to turn on the TKS, the fluid will still seep thru. It is definately better to turn it on prior to getting ice and then as needed...its a great system for getting thru some bad icing, but I would still try to get out of icing conditions if possible.

 

[Slippery Wing]

I wouldn't count on it seeping through. It won't seep through clear ice (experience), but it can seep through rime, provided its not too heavy. I've run into circumstances where the "normal" mode wouldn't keep the ice off and had to go to "max" mode just to keep up.

I'm like you, I don't care to stick around in the stuff for any longer than I have to, even when I have 17 gal of TKS on board.

Every time I have to turn it on, I sit there and wonder if the tail got the anti-ice memo like the forward part of the airplane did!

 

[Way2Broke]

1500/mo, cargo in any weather, no PFT as long as you have 135 mins and a 100 multi, 4 days of training (unpaid), 45 yr old planes, MX- if its broke and it will kill you they will fix it, if not shut up. interview..... do you have a pulse, do you have a pilot's license, your hired!!...... ANY QUESTIONS?

 

[NoPax]

Anybody know the routes they are flying out of Dallas and Lubbock?

I'm flying the route for Central Air Southwest out of Lubbock carrying boxes etc. for Lonestar Overnight Express.

The route is LBB-MAF-AUS-MAF-LBB Monday night through Thursday, and LBB-MAF-AUS-LBB on Friday night. Flight leaves Lubbock at 19:30 and get back around 06:30 with 5 hours downtime in Austin.

I've only got good things to say about Central - airplanes, management and maintenance - and I've been with them for 6 months now.

 

[SinglePliot135]

I am based with them at GRR. Though I've never flown with boots, I am thoroughly impressed with TKS. If you know anything about michigan it snows here every day in the winter and if you're in the clouds you will get ice. Use the TKS like any other system, to get out of the icing or through it quickly and it is great. We can also fly IN the ice for 4 hours (full tank) and have completely clean wings, stabs, and props because the fluid runs back.. I bet boots won't do that. If you want to make sure its ready as soon as you get into ice, just run it on the ground til the fluid drips, then you know all the air is out of the system and fluid will start flowing right away (also a good idea if hangared and going out into the snow- otherwise lines could freeze). Only one big disadvantage and that is flilling the tank with the 5 gallon jugs out in the cold. I know winter is over now but next year if im still here (hope i won't be) I will be thankful for the TKS.

Other parts of CAS aren't quite as good, no AP, low pay, old A/C, but this I knew going in and i'm building lots of total and twin time. I did the SIC as well, how else to build ME at 35/hr and if you have the other requirements they can waive a few twin hours and start you working right away when they need someone. Feel free to PM me with any ?s.

 

[User546]

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[Big Dog]

bump.

 

[8inMan]

bump.

 

[Big Dog]

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[Photoflight]

I applied with them and they offered me the opportunity to build multi time in the right seat for like 50 an hour.....I dutifully turned them down.